Biblical Slavery - How Could A Loving God Condone It?

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
"That which can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

Accordingly, consider your fatuous claims dismissed.

Oh my. . . You misapplied that. I made no claim without evidence. That was your sin.

The only "fatuous" claims have been yours. Let's try to focus on what the Bible says.

Believe it or not, you can start questioning your claims of an absolute, incontrovertible truth. It's all up to you. I admit it's not an easy path but it's possible because many before you have succeeded.

What are you talking about? You have no such thing. You only have a book of myths, bad morals, with a smidgen of history in it.

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
And if you actually ever did endeavor to study and comprehend the Bible's teachings you would be a Christian. Unless, of course, your not neurotypical. Are you neurotypical or do you have ASD?

No, people that understand the Bible and can be honest with themselves tend to be atheists.

Let's watch the personal attacks. I have not made any claims that you lack the ability to reason,not would I be having this discussion with you if I believed that to be the case.

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, that tells us that you will probably misinterpret the Bible at times. The Bible was written by man. That might help you to properly rephrase your question.

If that's really all the Bible is how do you explain this?

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
No, people that understand the Bible and can be honest with themselves tend to be atheists.

Let's watch the personal attacks. I have not made any claims that you lack the ability to reason,not would I be having this discussion with you if I believed that to be the case.

Which explains why Atheists outnumber Christians . . . oh . . . wait . . .

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
If that's really all the Bible is how do you explain this?

You mean the Daniel prophecy that has been reinterpreted several times? Many prophecies can be reinterpreted so that they appear to have been fulfilled. That is not surprising. That one is refuted by other Christians having different interpretations alone.

How do you explain the failed prophecies of the Bible?

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
Which explains why Atheists outnumber Christians . . . oh . . . wait . . .

Religion has been inflicted on people for thousands of years. Why would you expect a majority of atheists?

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Oh my. . . You misapplied that. I made no claim without evidence. That was your sin.

The only "fatuous" claims have been yours. Let's try to focus on what the Bible says.

What are you talking about? You have no such thing. You only have a book of myths, bad morals, with a smidgen of history in it.

You made specious claims here. It's obvious they're specious because when I pressed you for concrete evidence you withered . . .

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
You mean the Daniel prophecy that has been reinterpreted several times? Many prophecies can be reinterpreted so that they appear to have been fulfilled. That is not surprising. That one is refuted by other Christians having different interpretations alone.

How do you explain the failed prophecies of the Bible?

Irrelevant. What facts conclusively prove Daniel's prophecies failed?

MonkeyFire · Feb 24, 2019

The devil wrote that part.

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
Show me, then, where Jehovah God explicitly exempted the foreign residents of Israel from kidnapping residents of Israel for sale as forced labor.

Time to put up or . . .

No, as you see you made a bogus demand.
A rudely and improperly asked question does not merit a reply.

Ask properly and I will answer it. And I did not wither. I made your error clear.

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
Irrelevant. What facts conclusively prove Daniel's prophecies failed?

That others interpret it differently alone makes it a failed prophecy. If a prophecy has several different vague interpretations it is not amazing at all.If some of them are "fuflfilled". Nostradamus was a last master at that sort of prophecy. Prophecies with any accuracy at all tend to fail.

PruePhillip · Feb 24, 2019

Epic Beard Man said:
I ask my white Christian friends how their forefathers justified it using their scriptures

Justifying something using scripture is not the same thing
as the intent of scripture. You deliberately confuse the two.

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Religion has been inflicted on people for thousands of years. Why would you expect a majority of atheists?

Because, as you Atheists insist, you've proven that God does not nor cannot exist . . . oh . . . wait . . .

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
Because, as you Atheists insist, you've proven that God does not nor cannot exist . . . oh . . . wait . . .

Nope. Try again. If you want to argue against atheism you should understand what it is.

sooda · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
How is that germane to the reality of Islam's evil?

There is far less crime per capita in the Gulf States than there is in the US.

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
That others interpret it differently alone makes it a failed prophecy. If a prophecy has several different vague interpretations it is not amazing at all.If some of them are "fuflfilled". Nostradamus was a last master at that sort of prophecy. Prophecies with any accuracy at all tend to fail.

You're still not making any sense especially since Daniel made some very explicit, very concrete Messianic prophecies. Which means that facts can show if these actually came true or not.

So, get to it. If you're going to insist Daniel's prophecy failed present your evidence otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time . . .

Maximilian · Feb 24, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Nope. Try again. If you want to argue against atheism you should understand what it is.

So you can't actually prove God does not nor cannot exist . . .

But then why are you Atheist and not Agnostic?

sooda · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
You're still not making any sense especially since Daniel made some very explicit, very concrete Messianic prophecies. Which means that facts can show if these actually came true or not.

So, get to it. If you're going to insist Daniel's prophecy failed present your evidence otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time . . .

Daniel's prophecy was about Israel.

The Servant songs are four songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible, which include Isaiah 42:1-4; Isaiah 49:1-6; Isaiah 50:4-7; and Isaiah 52:13-53:12. They were first identified by Bernhard Duhm in his 1892 commentary on Isaiah.

The songs are four poems written about a certain "servant of YHWH." God calls the servant to lead the nations, but the servant is horribly abused among them. In the end, he is rewarded. Some scholars regard Isaiah 61:1-3 as a fifth servant song

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
You're still not making any sense especially since Daniel made some very explicit, very concrete Messianic prophecies. Which means that facts can show if these actually came true or not.

So, get to it. If you're going to insist Daniel's prophecy failed present your evidence otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time . . .

instead of saying that A person is not making sense you should say that you do not understand.

please tell us the very specific prophecies of Daniel.

I do believe that they are covered here at any rate:

Biblical prophecies - RationalWiki

Subduction Zone · Feb 24, 2019

Maximilian said:
So you can't actually prove God does not nor cannot exist . . .

But then why are you Atheist and not Agnostic?

Most agnostics are atheists. You keep demonstrating that you do not understand the terms.

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