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Do you blaspheme?

Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I'll go to the confession booth today. I feel bad about my hatred for God.

Sometimes not, other times I do , and yesterday was the worst anger I've had at God in over a year.

I'm not going to say sorry, because it's something that's going to keep happening likely.

I saw a man at an AA meeting recently he was missing all of his fingers because of frostbite from being homeless and drunk. He was also covered in scars from whatever.

I imagined life without fingers. It sounds like hell!

I should be grateful to God that I have fingers and so many other luxuries.

Thank you Lord.

But I really wish God would have protected the man's fingers.

Yes, he chose to drink, but in AA, everyone admits that they are powerless over alcohol. They don't have a chance without a power greater than themselves restoring them to sanity.

I know firsthand what it's like to be powerless over an addiction.

I realized I can't trust anybody here in real life, and I see so many bad things happening to good people, that I don't know what else to do but blaspheme the God who won't even speak up.

The Bible and the Quran contradict themselves, and lead people to opposite opinions.

Don't even start to tell me that God spoke through some silly violent psychopathic text believers don't agree on.

God refuses to speak up, pure and simple. if God would actually speak to me and others, I see all the good that we could actually accomplish.

Have you ever had a problem with blasphemy and then got over it?

Is blasphemy a problem that you still have?

When I see how much the suffering and confusion is in our world and I hear people saying things like "suicides and heretics go to hell," it just makes me very angry at God.

Can you relate?
 
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Baladas

Baladas

An Págánach
Most people blaspheme someone else's god.
My question is - If you don't believe that the Christian or Jewish scriptures are inspired, then why do you defer to their idea of God?
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Baladas said:
Most people blaspheme someone else's god.
My question is - If you don't believe that the Christian or Jewish scriptures are inspired, then why do you defer to their idea of God?
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I see God in people, coincidence, joy, sorrow, nature, stars, planets, beauty, and my conscience.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
LuisDantas said:
I can't say that I understand how you manage to believe in a God that you hate.

In any case, blasphemy is basically unavoidable, as mentioned above by @Baladas

Do you think that you should not blaspheme? If so, why?
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Sometimes I feel God is entertained when people fight him. Other times I feel guilty for blasphemy. I just don't know how to answer the question. I think God is okay with blasphemy if it is for the right reasons and done the right way.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
PopeADope said:
Sometimes I feel God is entertained when people fight him. Other times I feel guilty for blasphemy. I just don't know how to answer the question. I think God is okay with blasphemy if it is for the right reasons and done the right way.
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Since you believe in God, maybe you should trust his ability to deal with your emotions, then?
 
Regiomontanus

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
PopeADope said:
Sometimes I feel God is entertained when people fight him. Other times I feel guilty for blasphemy. I just don't know how to answer the question. I think God is okay with blasphemy if it is for the right reasons and done the right way.
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According to the Bible it is not OK. For example, Matthew 12:31-32

If you believe in God how could you ever think so in the first place? Life is a gift. You should thank God for that gift every morning you wake up.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Regiomontanus said:
According to the Bible it is not OK. For example, Matthew 12:31-32

If you believe in God how could you ever think so in the first place? Life is a gift. You should thank God for that gift every morning you wake up.
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Every time I find something to thank God for, I thank him.

However, I think it is kind of ignorant of you to call life a gift.

For many people, it is ugliness, pain, suffering, depression, fear, torture, sickness, injustice, and misery.

For those people, life is not a gift (as a general rule.)
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
PopeADope said:
Sometimes I feel God is entertained when people fight him. Other times I feel guilty for blasphemy. I just don't know how to answer the question. I think God is okay with blasphemy if it is for the right reasons and done the right way.
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The devil's gotten ahold of you.

Now being an atheist, of course I don't mean that in a literal sense, but I suspect you've a number of conflicting moral values running amok in your subconscious mind. Some place there by your upbringing, some by your developing sense of compassion.

You got to take control IMO. Step back and sort out the source of all these moral values. Is it something that you actually feel or is it something you've been told you ought to be feeling.

I believe people develop their own morality as they get older, more knowledgeable, become more experienced with the world. I think a lot of time that comes in conflict with the morality that you've been told you ought to have.

I found myself having to accepting my own morality. My sense of right and wrong that developed naturally. Right or wrong, in the view of the world, even in the view of God, if there is one, it's who I am. I can't deny who I am to please the world or even God. Even there's the Christian idea of come as your are. God's morals are not your morals. Don't judge God by your morals and don't judge yourself by God's.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
PopeADope said:
I'll go to the confession booth today. I feel bad about my hatred for God.

Sometimes not, other times I do , and yesterday was the worst anger I've had at God in over a year.

I'm not going to say sorry, because it's something that's going to keep happening likely.

I saw a man at an AA meeting recently he was missing all of his fingers because of frostbite from being homeless and drunk. He was also covered in scars from whatever.

I imagined life without fingers. It sounds like hell!

I should be grateful to God that I have fingers and so many other luxuries.

Thank you Lord.

But I really wish God would have protected the man's fingers.

Yes, he chose to drink, but in AA, everyone admits that they are powerless over alcohol. They don't have a chance without a power greater than themselves restoring them to sanity.

I know firsthand what it's like to be powerless over an addiction.

I realized I can't trust anybody here in real life, and I see so many bad things happening to good people, that I don't know what else to do but blaspheme the God who won't even speak up.

The Bible and the Quran contradict themselves, and lead people to opposite opinions.

Don't even start to tell me that God spoke through some silly violent psychopathic text believers don't agree on.

God refuses to speak up, pure and simple. if God would actually speak to me and others, I see all the good that we could actually accomplish.

Have you ever had a problem with blasphemy and then got over it?

Is blasphemy a problem that you still have?

When I see how much the suffering and confusion is in our world and I hear people saying things like "suicides and heretics go to hell," it just makes me very angry at God.

Can you relate?
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I used to but got over it.

Could I suggest a book? Should be an easy read, it's Destined to Reign by Joseph Prince. It might be a key for you to move forward.
 
Baladas

Baladas

An Págánach
PopeADope said:
I see God in people, coincidence, joy, sorrow, nature, stars, planets, beauty, and my conscience.
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This sentiment resonates with me, and I relate to it.
I just don't understand why you are still clinging to the idea that it MUST be the Christian God. Especially when you said (or seemed to say) that you don't believe that the scriptures are divinely inspired. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just a little confused and wanting to understand. We all walk our own path. Why let a book that you don't fully accept restrict your freedom?
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Baladas said:
This sentiment resonates with me, and I relate to it.
I just don't understand why you are still clinging to the idea that it MUST be the Christian God. Especially when you said (or seemed to say) that you don't believe that the scriptures are divinely inspired. I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just a little confused and wanting to understand. We all walk our own path. Why let a book that you don't fully accept restrict your freedom?
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I don't believe in the book. For whatever reason I feel there's a very powerful spirit working in the Catholic Church.

I believe there's the spirits of many Saints, and I believe Mary appears to people.

I have experience that the rosary and Holy Communion has some sort of spiritual force behind it.

I also appreciate the sacrament of confession.

The parts of the Bible I don't like are the parts that go against my conscience. The verses that make God look like a psychopath are just not to be attributed to the God that I know.

I see God more in good people.
 
Baladas

Baladas

An Págánach
PopeADope said:
I don't believe in the book. For whatever reason I feel there's a very powerful spirit working in the Catholic Church.

I believe there's the spirits of many Saints, and I believe Mary appears to people.

I have experience that the rosary and Holy Communion has some sort of spiritual force behind it.

I also appreciate the sacrament of confession.

The parts of the Bible I don't like are the parts that go against my conscience. The verses that make God look like a psychopath are just not to be attributed to the God that I know.

I see God more in good people.
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Thank you for your reply, despite my posts not really following your OP (I'm sorry, I promise I am not trying to derail your post). Those are all things that I can respect and understand. I feel like I can relate to you, despite any disagreements we might have about divinity.

I was a very devout Christian in the past, and I remember grappling with the parts of scripture that did not seem to depict the God that I intuitively knew. Ordering the wholesale slaughter of men, women and children (even animals)? Trying to kill Moses until he circumcised his son? Almost losing it and breaking his covenant with Israel (by exterminating them) until Moses talked him down?
The loving God of my experiences was better than that, I simply knew it. My pastor was a good friend of mine, and I remember him simply dismissing my concerns with a "well, I don't think we can pick and choose parts of the Bible that we like" despite the fact that he did that very thing himself.

I was not a Catholic, but I certainly respect aspects of the tradition. Praying the rosary is not something that I have ever done, but I agree about Communion. Confession can also be very good for people. I also believe in the power of ancestral figures (which is how I view the Saints).

For me, personally, I feel that prayers, meditations and rituals of other traditions have a similar power behind them and that we ought to go where we are drawn.
I wish you all the best in finding how you will walk your path with a sense of inner peace. :)
 
Native

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
PopeADope said:
I'm not going to say sorry, because it's something that's going to keep happening likely.
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There is nothing to be sorry for regarding the "God-question".

When you look at what goes on in the world today, it is obvious that we have an indifferent, humanized and personified made "God", who don´t care at all what humans do to each other or what we do to the creation itself.

Having said this, you and all of us should be really sorry for what we do to each other and to nature locally, nationally and globally.

The divine forces of creation are the cause of our existence, but It is OUR own responsibility how we live as an individual and collective human being in the nature of which we all live.
 
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