Where does it say that? could we be judging?
This is exactly why I'm your 'luke warm Christian' So called Christians with their mightier then thou attitude. Preaching that their way is the only way. If you don't heed to their way of thinking, your going to hell. Condemning gays. Condemning any way of life that differs from theirs. What Jesus teach? Humility. Love EVERYONE! JUDGE NOT! If judging people, deciding for yourself who goes to heaven and who doesn't makes you a Christian, count me out. I'd rather find God on my own then be a part of that.
Jesus was also perfect. Did he not also say "He who is without sin be the 1st to cast a stone?" He is the only one that can judge. Seems a whole lot of Christians cast many a stone. It's cool to have your beliefs. I have mine. I believe Mine are correct.... for me. I try not to tell others how to live their lives. But others try to tell me how to live mine, according to their faith
The Bible is subject to interpretation. Hence, so many religions, so many Bibles. Who is to say is right? Jesus. My interpretation: We are to act like Jesus, to the best of our ability, by showing love. Compassion. Be humble. He never gave us the right to judge. Quite the opposite. As ND said in another thread, love God, love your neighbor. That is Christ like.
Where does it say that? could we be judging?
I'm not judging... Judging is discearning between good and evil. What judging is being looked at today is condemning... there is a HUGE differance.
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm - neither hot nor cold - I am about to spit you out of my mouth (Revelation 3:15-16)
In another place (I have to look for it) Jesus says that you are either with Him or against Him and that you cannot serve two masters... Him and the world. Lukewarm means trying to serve both masters... if your trying to live for Christ and are carrying your cross daily then don't worry about it.\
When are not supposed to judge other people... But we do judge their ACTIONS. By their fruit we know them. We have to judge if something is right or wrong, thats good judgement. We don't judge them in the sense of "Your going to Hell. Your going to Heaven." We do not judge the heart of a man, but mearly the outward acts.
You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere man? (1 Corinthians 3:3) Here Paul "judged" the people of Corinth. It was a godly judgment. He was judging their conduct.
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:12-13)
If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge teh world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trival cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother goes to law against another - and this in front of unbelievers!(1 Corinthians 6:1-6)
We also judge ourselves and our own actions. There is a certain order of things that happens to a Christian.
1. He Judges Himself
2. Others Judge Him
3. God's Judgement
If He fails to correct his behavior by juding himself then it is taken to believers. If it still doesn't work then God will send His judgment. (For a better understanding see
Judging by Derek Prince.)
This is exactly why I'm your 'luke warm Christian' So called Christians with their mightier then thou attitude.
I don't have a "Mightier then thou attitude"! I sin just like everybody else! I consider myself better than no man, woman, or angel. I simply wish to be more and more like my Lord.
Preaching that their way is the only way.
Jesus is the only way... What other way would you like?
If you don't heed to their way of thinking, your going to hell.
Ummm... not my way of thinking... its God's. He has given His Son for you... What else would you like Him to do?
Condemning gays. Condemning any way of life that differs from theirs.
If a Christian condemns... HE IS GOING AGAINST SCRIPTURE!! Romans 8:1 tells us there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. And one of my close friends is bi... I'm not and I garuntee that if you ask him if I have
ever condemned him he will say no. I'll give a phone number if you wish... And the Bible says Homosexuality is a sin... not me or any other Christian. So once again, take it up with God.
What Jesus teach? Humility. Love EVERYONE!
Exactly... But what does humility have to do with judging? And you judge(discipline) those you love... I do love everybody with
agapa love. The unconditional love.
If judging people, deciding for yourself who goes to heaven and who doesn't makes you a Christian, count me out. I'd rather find God on my own then be a part of that.
A Christian acting out of line with Scripture condemns you it doesn't affect your salvation, although it might affect his....
Jesus was also perfect. Did he not also say "He who is without sin be the 1st to cast a stone?" He is the only one that can judge. Seems a whole lot of Christians cast many a stone.
I agree... But judging and condemning are different. Is it okay for the government to judge your actions?
It's cool to have your beliefs. I have mine. I believe Mine are correct.... for me. I try not to tell others how to live their lives. But others try to tell me how to live mine, according to their faith.
And I respect that... why do you believe yours are correct?
The Bible is subject to interpretation. Hence, so many religions, so many Bibles.
Says who? God? The Holy Bible is
not subjected to one mans opinion. And each "religion" has their own "Bible," so to say that is to speak untruth.
As ND said in another thread, love God, love your neighbor. That is Christ like.
Amen.
He never gave us the right to judge. Quite the opposite.
How can we tell black from white without making a judgment? Aren't we suppose to judge our own lives? Judge what is right and what is wrong?
- David -