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"We want to exterminate `Alawites" !!!!

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
These are videos that you are not likely to see in Western media or in Saudi and Qatari Arab media. They chant "We want to exterminate `Alawites". This was in Homs. An eye witness (not to be confused with eyewitnesses on Aljazeera) reports to me that he himself heard the chant "`Alawites to the grave, and Christians to Beirut (it rhymes in Arabic of course)"in Latakia. (thanks Hossam)-Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil.

The Angry Arab News Service/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-OIzMKg_YP8

http://youtu.be/-OIzMKg_YP8
 

Sajdah

Al-Aqsa Is In My Heart.
Really?!
After a year of massacres in Syria is that all what you've noticed?

May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Oh my God, are you serious?!! Do you live with us on this planet?! Wow!! Nothing else bothers your moral conscience?

No worries, the nusayri criminal regime is the one who is exterminating Muslims and human beings in Syria with the help of the sectarian rotten regime of Iran and Hizbullat. May Allah grant victory to his poor slaves and humiliate the criminal kuffar who are systematically massacring and eradicating the children, women and old men without any atom of humanity or mercy. What happens in Syria is pure evil that kills humanity everyday. The sad thing is that the world is watching, unfortunately the world lost its humanity.

Paul Conroy on Syria after his escape from Homs:
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Sajdah said:
May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
May Allah exterminate the criminal Bashar and his gang!
Allahumma ameen
 
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Sahar

Well-Known Member
From the massacre of Karm Al-Zeitoun in Homs, only yesterday:
Syrian forces accused of killing 45 women and children - Telegraph
Only women and children appear to have fallen victim to the incident in Homs: between 45 and 47 were killed, with some having their throats cut and others being set on fire. Four of the dead are understood to have been children aged only five or six.
 
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Why are Russia and China supporting the Assad regime?

HuffPost said:
[A]n Obama-supported resolution at the U.N. Security Council was vetoed this weekend by Russia and China. The resolution would have backed Arab League plan aimed at moving Assad in the direction of a peaceful transition to democracy in his violence-wracked country.
 
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sandandfoam

Veteran Member
Why are Russia and China supporting the Assad regime?
I imagine it's strategic interests for Russia - military bases, similar rationale to the US support for the Saudi regime I think.
But a huge caveat - I don't have a clue about the politics of this region.
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
"We want to exterminate `Alawites" !!!!
This is a call for ethnic cleansing…

All indicators show that its beginning has already started..

Let us have an objective analysis of the crises:
Just before Arab spring, Syrian regime was one of the other dictator regimes …

However it was not a puppet to the imperial regimes, and it was a supporting power to the different resistant movements in the region…

This was behind the international common stance against it …
These imperial powers are not concerned with human rights…
How many Iraqis were killed by Sadam…These powers were not concerned …

Portrayed as the protector of the Syrian protestors, the free Syrian army is supported by many international powers and is meant to be used for political purposes…

The path of the Syrian crisis is clear…as the US and its allies have created the Taliban, to liberate the Afghans from the Soviet occupation (?!!!), they are transforming the Free Syrian army…

Now let us see who are supporting this Army [materially or politically], and let us try to have an understanding of what can be inferred from seeing all these powers who have different agendas and ideologies united in supporting one side: USA, Al Qaeda, Israel, Turkey, Saudi…
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
Isn't Assad an Alawite

ُُYes he is.
Then there are the extreme Salafist groups that don't consider some Sunnis to be Muslims, rather than the Alawites.

According to what we hear in the media, the alwaites are minority (may be 15 %) of the population.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
ُُYes he is.
Then there are the extreme Salafist groups that don't consider some Sunnis to be Muslims, rather than the Alawites.

True,Sunni Islam has its fair share of such people

According to what we hear in the media, the alwaites are minority (may be 15 %) of the population.

I think they are but so were the Sunnis in Iraq yet we know what they did,but really it isn't such a surprise to see whats happening in Syria,Hezbollah and even Al Qaeda have all got their fingers in the pie along with Ahmadinejad becomming a little nervous of Americas interest.
 
Subhuman savages.
Father Heathen, I have noticed that you respond to many conflicts abroad by saying something like this. I think this kind of response is unhelpful and a misdirection of outrage. Those pictures are horrific and tragic, but your comments seem to dehumanize an entire nation or ethnicity of people, which is a mistake, particularly when the victims fall under the same dehumanizing umbrella. Let us not forget that almost every country has committed violence against civilians, and the goal is to end the violence, not dismiss its perpetrators (and victims) as animals.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
"We want to exterminate `Alawites" !!!!
This is a call for ethnic cleansing…

All indicators show that its beginning has already started..

Let us have an objective analysis of the crises:
Just before Arab spring, Syrian regime was one of the other dictator regimes …

However it was not a puppet to the imperial regimes, and it was a supporting power to the different resistant movements in the region…

This was behind the international common stance against it …
These imperial powers are not concerned with human rights…
How many Iraqis were killed by Sadam…These powers were not concerned …

Portrayed as the protector of the Syrian protestors, the free Syrian army is supported by many international powers and is meant to be used for political purposes…

The path of the Syrian crisis is clear…as the US and its allies have created the Taliban, to liberate the Afghans from the Soviet occupation (?!!!), they are transforming the Free Syrian army…

Now let us see who are supporting this Army [materially or politically], and let us try to have an understanding of what can be inferred from seeing all these powers who have different agendas and ideologies united in supporting one side: USA, Al Qaeda, Israel, Turkey, Saudi…
Yeah, you forgot to mention the part which says that the "terrorist" groups are those who slaughter the innocent Syrians and spread chaos in the country!!

Let us have an objective analysis of the crises:
Just before Arab spring, Syrian regime was one of the other dictator regimes …

However it was not a puppet to the imperial regimes, and it was a supporting power to the different resistant movements in the region…
Ummm if we accepted these claims for a moment, would this mean the Syrians and those who care about humanity shouldn't complain about the massacres and mass slaughters committed by Bashar's regime?! Would this mean we must stand silent without offering any help to the poor people who are being tortured and massacred on a daily basis? Would this make all these killings less ugly? Would this mean the Syrians have no right to defend themselves and their families?
Sorry mate, these are old jokes.

From an Islamic view, we must help the weak and the oppressed with our souls, money and every possible means until the oppression and injustice end. This is what human beings must do when powerless children and women are slaughtered.

Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, insists on believing that his support for the ''resistance against Israel'' distinguishes his regime from others in the region and, therefore, makes it immune to the revolutions that have brought down pro-Western presidents in Tunisia and Egypt.

His support for Hamas and Hezbollah may make the Syrian president more popular among Arabs, but he is engaged in dangerous delusions if he thinks this makes the killings of peaceful Syrian protesters less reprehensible.

...And Syria is one of the most repressive states in the region; hundreds, if not thousands, of people have disappeared into its infamous prisons. Some reappear after years, some after decades, many never resurface at all.

Syrians have not been the only victims. Other Arabs - Lebanese who were abducted during the decades of Syrian control over its neighbour, Jordanian members of the ruling Baath party who disagreed with its leadership and members of different Palestinian factions - have also been victimised.

Syrian critics of the regime are often arrested and charged - without due process – with serving external - often American and Israeli - agendas to undermine the country''s "steadfastness and confrontational policies".

...Syria''s claim to be "a fortress of resistance" is based on two factors: Firstly, Damascus has refused to sign a peace treaty with Israel without the return of the Golan Heights, which Israel has occupied since 1967; secondly, its support for various Palestinian groups, as well as for Hezbollah in Lebanon.

There is no doubt that its refusal to reach a compromise with Israel – in contrast to Egypt, Jordan and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) – has boosted its Arabist credentials and bolstered its geopolitical role. But Syria has made a trade-off that allows it to pose as ''confrontational'' state while ensuring that its frontiers with Israel remain the quietest front in that ''confrontation''. It has done this by ruthlessly enforcing a ban on the smuggling of weapons into the Golan Heights and by guaranteeing that Syrians, Palestinians and others are unable to cross its tightly controlled borders.

Syrians or members of Damascus-based Palestinian groups would therefore never dare attempt to smuggle weapons or attack Israel in the way others have via the Jordanian or Lebanese frontiers.

Furthermore Syria has been surprisingly quiet about the Israeli expropriation of land, building of settlements and transfer of Jewish settlers to the occupied Golan Heights. There are more than 30 Jewish settlements in the Golan Heights, supposedly on some of the best agrarian land, inhabited by at least 20,000 settlers. The Arab population of the region has dwindled from 130,000 people in 1967 to 20,000 today, while Israel has expropriated all but six per cent of the land there.

...When subjected to closer scrutiny, Syria''s support for ''resistance'' groups also appears tainted. It has continually sought to control the Palestinian resistance movement, often using force in its attempts to consolidate its domination of the Palestinians.

Palestinians have not forgotten that one of the most tragic chapters in their history came at the hands of the Syrian army, when troops who had entered Lebanon with the declared mission of enforcing peace and order during the civil war obliterated the Tel a-Zaatar Palestinian refugee camp in Beirut.

In the mid-1980s, Syria also actively supported the Lebanese Amal movement''s siege of the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Syria''s internal interference in Palestinian affairs, often nurturing divisions, is also well known and documented. Moreover, while Assad has in recent years challenged the Palestinian leadership to opt for armed resistance, Damascus did little to support the first and second intifadas.

Its rhetoric is no doubt appealing to Arab progressive and nationalist forces. However, Syria''s actions have rarely extended beyond encouraging others to fight Israel until the last drop of mostly Palestinian or Lebanese blood is spilled.

...The cynical use of revolutionary political language by the regime to cover its contradictory political positions has no doubt helped it. But the Arab revolutions have stripped all regimes of their masks and this regime''s attempt to crush protests has unveiled its tyrannical face.

Bashar al-Assad, judging by his ''j''accuse'' speech, is still living with his delusions. But the era of crying foreign conspiracy to cover up bloody crimes is over, even if the message has yet to reach the Syrian president.
The delusions of Bashar al-Assad - Lamis Andoni - Al Jazeera English
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
In my opinion, defending Bashar Al-Assad and/or his regime is no different from defending Hitler and the Nazis. They really are one and the same in their methods, ideologies, and brutality.
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
In my opinion, defending Bashar Al-Assad and/or his regime is no different from defending Hitler and the Nazis. They really are one and the same in their methods, ideologies, and brutality.

Criticizing the extremists and the imperial hypocrisies is not a defense of Bashar Al-Asad.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Criticizing the extremists and the imperial hypocrisies is not a defense of Bashar Al-Asad.

Even if there are extremists among the protesters against Al-Assad, they are a minority, and certainly don't even begin to come close to the savagery and radicalism of Bashar's army of mercenaries.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Now let us see who are supporting this Army [materially or politically], and let us try to have an understanding of what can be inferred from seeing all these powers who have different agendas and ideologies united in supporting one side: USA, Al Qaeda, Israel, Turkey, Saudi…
Oh, but hey no problem if Russia, Iran or Hezbullah intervened in the affairs of Syria, no problem if Iran sent its revolutionary guard members into Syria to crush the revolution?

Al-Qaeda? Israel? Al-Assad's regime is much better for the Israelis than the unknown future following its fall, if the Syrians managed to topple the regime, this would open the door for much worse scenarios that can threaten the stability of Israel and even its own existence. Hillary Clinton and Obama expressed the opposition of their administration to arm the protesters/the FSA. The US won't actually intervene until it finds an alternative to Al-Asad that won't compromise its interests.
The ruling regime of Syria has been acting in a predictable manner and within limits offering stability to Israel through its borders. It was allowed for the regime to brag about its resistance against Israel blablabla and repeat its empty slogans but in reality it did very little to liberate Al-Golan and it posed no actual threats to the security of Israel. Even its support of Hezbullah has its limits for fear of being entangled in a war with Israel.

I don't say that the US and the Israelis can't use the fall of Asad's regime to further achieve their interests, they can gain from this if they could provide a safe alternative, as it would be a fatal blow to the Iranian regime and Hezbullah.
 
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