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Do you believe in a physical resurrection of the dead?

javajo

Well-Known Member
Jesus ascended to heaven after he was resurrected to the spirit realm. Jesus took Not his missing physical body, but his now resurrected spirit body to heaven.
I believe he is in his physical body but it has been transformed, immortal, incorruptible and glorified. I believe he physically raised from the dead as his body was not in the tomb and he told his disciples that a ghost does not have flesh and bone as you see I have.

Since 'flesh and blood' [physical] can Not inherit the kingdom,
then what some term as rapture is really: resurrection.
It says we will be 'changed', so I believe we will be transformed, still in our bodies but they will be changed and fit for Heaven and eternity as it says we will be changed to immortal, incorruptible, and glorified.

'then' [those later ones-Matt 25v40] we 'brothers' who are alive and remain shall be caught up [resurrected] .........
I believe it is a one time event that happens as fast as light hits the eye, "in a twinkling of an eye", yet the dead will rise and change first then we who are alive will.

Whereas the 'sheep' of verse 32 are not caught up, but can gain everlasting life by coming through the great tribulation alive on earth at the start of Jesus 1000-year reign over earth. Rev 7v14; Matt 24v21.
That is earning salvation and is unscriptural as Romans 4 says that salvation is a gift by faith not a wage we can earn.
 

Twig pentagram

High Priest
Do you believe that after death your actual physical body will be reanimated, an actual physical resurrection or do you believe in a purely spiritual resurrection, that it is only your soul or spirit body which survives death? The bible isn't very clear but it does appear to be a mainstream christian belief that your actual physical body is what is resurrected. That idea to me seems so implausible that it leads me to believe that Christianity, Judaism and perhaps Islam is steeped in an antiquated error. Intuitively it just doesn't make sense for obvious reasons and it's hard to understand people who actually still believe in it. Where do you stand on this issue?
I don't know what happens after death.
 

terryboy

Member
Yes, I believe in resurrection of the dead, hence the song Zombie

In your head, in your head, zombie zombie zombie eh eh eh oh oh oh ah ah ah....
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't know what happens after death.
According to Jesus 'sleep' is what happens after death.-John 11vs11-14.

Jesus learned that 'sleeping' condition of the dead from the Psalms.
Such as: Psalms 6v5; 13v3; 115v17; 146v4

Jesus would have also learned the writings of Solomon.
King Solomon was known for his God-given wisdom.
Solomon wrote at Ecclesiastes [9v5] that the dead know nothing.

Revelation [1v18] mentions that Jesus has the keys to unlock death.
Jesus will use his keys to unlock death's sleep by resurrecting people.
Some to heaven to reign with Jesus for a thousand years.
[Rev 20v6; 14v4; 5vs9,10]
The majority resurrected on earth during Jesus 1000-year reign over earth.

-Acts 24v15; John 3v13; Psalm 72v8; Daniel 12vs2,13
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Do you believe that after death your actual physical body will be reanimated, an actual physical resurrection or do you believe in a purely spiritual resurrection, that it is only your soul or spirit body which survives death? The bible isn't very clear but it does appear to be a mainstream christian belief that your actual physical body is what is resurrected. That idea to me seems so implausible that it leads me to believe that Christianity, Judaism and perhaps Islam is steeped in an antiquated error. Intuitively it just doesn't make sense for obvious reasons and it's hard to understand people who actually still believe in it. Where do you stand on this issue?
I fully believe in a physical resurrection, and I believe the Bible quite clearly teaches this doctrine. To begin with, "resurrection" means "the act of rising from the dead or returning to life." I suppose that if you believe in the idea of a "soul sleep," this argument would not be particularly compelling, but if you don't, the only possible way to interpret the concept of a resurrection is in a very literal, physical sense. The Bible speaks of God breathing life into Adam, whereby he became a "living soul." Therefore, when man's spirit resides within his physical body, he is alive. When that same spirit leaves his physical body, he is dead. The spirit does not cease to exist as a cognizant entity. It's just that without the spirit, the body is just a shell. It's the body that dies, not the spirit. Therefore, it is only the body that can be resurrected. A spirit cannot be resurrected (or brought back to life) since it never dies.

Also, the fact that Jesus Christ himself was resurrected and clearly had a physical body of flesh and bones is proof to anyone who believes the biblical account of His life, death, and resurrection that the resurrection is, in fact, literal. The spirit which leaves the body at death re-enters it at resurrection, giving it new life. The difference between a mortal body and a resurrected body is that a resurrected body is no longer subject to disfigurment, disease or death. It is perfect, immortal and immutable.
 
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InChrist

Free4ever
I believe the scriptures indicate the physical resurrection where the mortal body of the believer is transformed to a glorified eternal body as was Jesus Christ's.

For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself. Philippians 3:20-21
 
In Islam we just believe that all died people will only resurrect on the day of Judgement and there is no possibility of resurrecting here in this world.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
In Islam we just believe that all died people will only resurrect on the day of Judgement and there is no possibility of resurrecting here in this world.

When you say 'this world' do you mean in this world of badness today as 2nd Timothy [3vs15,13] says these 'last days' of badness in this world ?

As far as a later earthly resurrection what does Surah XXXIX vs 73,74 means about inheriting the land.....and abide in the garden ?

Surah XXI v 105 mentions the righteous servants will inherit the land.
 
Do you believe that after death your actual physical body will be reanimated, an actual physical resurrection or do you believe in a purely spiritual resurrection, that it is only your soul or spirit body which survives death? The bible isn't very clear but it does appear to be a mainstream christian belief that your actual physical body is what is resurrected. That idea to me seems so implausible that it leads me to believe that Christianity, Judaism and perhaps Islam is steeped in an antiquated error. Intuitively it just doesn't make sense for obvious reasons and it's hard to understand people who actually still believe in it. Where do you stand on this issue?

How do you know that spirits/souls even exist? I've never seen one. Have you?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I believe the scriptures indicate the physical resurrection where the mortal body of the believer is transformed to a glorified eternal body as was Jesus Christ's.
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself. Philippians 3:20-21

But eternal body as was Jesus Christ's,but for whom?

Paul was going to be part of the first or earlier resurrection .
[Rev 20v6; 14v4; 5vs9,10]
Please notice the 'sheep' of Matthew [25v32] are not the same as Jesus 'brothers' of verse 40. It is the 'brothers' of 1st Cor. [15v50] that are resurrected to heaven.

The living 'sheep' of verse 32 remain on earth.
Also those that died before Jesus died [John 3v13] do Not go to heaven but will have a future earthly resurrection during Jesus messianic 1000-year reign over earth as earthly subjects of God's kingdom.

-Psalm 72v8; Hebrews 11vs13,39; Acts 24v15
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
How do you know that spirits/souls even exist? I've never seen one. Have you?

I've seen souls.
According to Genesis [2v7] after Adam received the breath of life then Adam became a living soul. At death Adam became a dead soul or lifeless soul.

In Scripture 'soul' is the person or life as a person himself.
The soul that sins dies according to Ezekiel 18vs4,20
Adam sinned, Adam died.
-Acts 3v23

Angels are considered as spirit persons because we do not see them.
 

CatchyTitle

New Member
Ressurection? As in returning from CLINICAL death?

Of course not.

All you are, is made up from the brain/mind and the vessel (body) that carries and protects it.

Once brain activity ends and the organs essential to living have all failed, it's curtains, I'm afraid, no matter how desperately you rail against this much-avoided fact of life.

There has never been any evidence to suggest otherwise.

How can this even be debatable?
 

Cesar

Member
Ressurection? As in returning from CLINICAL death?

Of course not.

All you are, is made up from the brain/mind and the vessel (body) that carries and protects it.

Once brain activity ends and the organs essential to living have all failed, it's curtains, I'm afraid, no matter how desperately you rail against this much-avoided fact of life.

There has never been any evidence to suggest otherwise.

How can this even be debatable?

Actually, such a thing is possible. The Messiah did rise from the dead. His body was alive again... after all, we're talking about God, not what humans can or cannot do.
 

Renji

Well-Known Member
Actually, such a thing is possible. The Messiah did rise from the dead. His body was alive again... after all, we're talking about God, not what humans can or cannot do.

This.... If we don't believe in the physical resurrection of the dead (this is in the Christian context), then it would seem that we also reject the resurrection of Jesus from the dead...
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Ressurection? As in returning from CLINICAL death?
Of course not.
All you are, is made up from the brain/mind and the vessel (body) that carries and protects it.
Once brain activity ends and the organs essential to living have all failed, it's curtains, I'm afraid, no matter how desperately you rail against this much-avoided fact of life.
There has never been any evidence to suggest otherwise.
How can this even be debatable?

I guess the debate is because Jesus had a friend that was dead for 4 days.
So, a return from 'clinical' death was out of the question.
According to Scripture Jesus resurrected his friend after he was 4 days dead.
-John chapter eleven,
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Actually, such a thing is possible. The Messiah did rise from the dead. His body was alive again... after all, we're talking about God, not what humans can or cannot do.

Where did you get the idea that Jesus body [physical] was alive again?

According to Acts [2vs31,32] God resurrected Jesus.
There is No Scripture that says Jesus resurrected himself.

God resurrected Jesus back in a spirit body.
That is why Jesus used different materialized bodies to appear to his disciples.
Jesus [Acts 1v9] did Not take a fleshly body to heaven but his spirit one.
-1st Cor 15v50
 
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