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Glenn beck rally in washington today

Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Alceste said:
Yes, it is apparent from having just looked it up. You too can learn to google!
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If you have a source, why not cite it instead of saying it's apparent?
Sure, I can google, but it's not always easy to find what you've already found.
 
autonomous1one1

autonomous1one1

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Here is an article that indicates a little about counting the crowds.

Park service changes course, plans to offer crowd estimate - USATODAY.com

The park service stopped releasing crowd estimates in 1996, when Congress stripped its budget of money to do so following a controversy over the estimate for the 1994 Million Man March. Barna said there is debate within the park service over whether that prohibition was permanent or just for that year.
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EDIT: Actually the Park service did not do the count for the Obama inauguration as indicated in this article - used Washington Post est. But the inauguration had the largest crowd of all time 1.8M.
WASHINGTON - The National Park Service says it will rely on a media report that says 1.8 million people attended President Obama's inauguration.
David Barna, a Park Service spokesman, said the agency did not conduct its own count. Instead, it will use a Washington Post account that said 1.8 million people gathered on the US Capitol grounds, National Mall, and parade route.
"It is a record," Barna said. "We believe it is the largest event held in Washington, D.C., ever."
The Post reported the figure yesterday, citing an unidentified senior security official, who had access to estimates from many agencies. The Post also used satellite images, square footage, and crowd density formulas.
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Inaugural crowd size reportedly D.C. record - The Boston Globe
 
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Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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And why is the size of the crowd important? None one doubts that the willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest are plentiful.
 
autonomous1one1

autonomous1one1

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Father Heathen said:
And why is the size of the crowd important? None one doubts that the willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest are plentiful.
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The count is always important to those holding an event and to those who oppose the event, dear Father. In this case, the crowd was reported to be somewhere between 77,000 and 1,000,000 which tells us to always examine the reporter as well as the news.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Father Heathen said:
And why is the size of the crowd important? None one doubts that the willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest are plentiful.
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It's important only in terms of the Newscorpublican narrative about a massive groundswell of anti-incumbent, anti-Obama sentiment. And because it demonstrates Beck, who puts the number at half a million, is a contemptible douche bag.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Revoltingest said:
If you have a source, why not cite it instead of saying it's apparent?
Sure, I can google, but it's not always easy to find what you've already found.
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It's a pain to do links on an ipod touch. I figure, as Mulder says, the truth is out there. I regularly fact check other people's posts just fine without them having to give me links.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Alceste said:
It's a pain to do links on an ipod touch. I figure, as Mulder says, the truth is out there. I regularly fact check other people's posts just fine without them having to give me links.
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Mulder didn't quite finish...
The truth is out there, but I'll be damned if I can find it among these millions of links & Viagra ads.
 
M

Mercy Not Sacrifice

Well-Known Member
Alceste said:
Looks like there was quite a lot of elbow room there. No way that was "tens of thousands" of people. The Republicans have a habit of dramatically exaggerating the attendance numbers of their Tea Party rallies, even to the extent of borrowing aerial photos of other more significant (and genuine) grassroots movements.

Considering the expense the Republicans go to to bus in idiots from across the country, I would say the dismal attendance shows America has little to fear from these people.
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I wish I shared your optimism. Unfortunately, I think the Far Right has shown a level of aggressive militancy not seen since the Civil Rights movement, but the difference is that this time, the aggressive conservatives are playing offense and not defense. I worry that they are going to make this country worse before it gets better.

Troublemane said:
America has nothing to fear from honest debates of ideas. And those who think the democrats are safe in washington, while the rest of the country suffers from record economic downturn after downturn, continued stagnation and unemployment, are the real idiots.
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Yeah, the Democrats definitely created this economic mess. :facepalm: Christ, why do conservatives continue to delude themselves with that lie? And more importantly, what exactly would Republicans do other than just try to reverse every law Obama has ever signed??

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Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Damn straight.

We have no hope of straightening out this mess as long as this polarization and fake moral outrage on both sides continues.

Both parties are equally guilty. I don't understand why this is so difficult for people to grasp.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Kathryn said:
Both parties are equally guilty. I don't understand why this is so difficult for people to grasp.
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To admit responsibility for one's teammates' shortcomings is a humbling task.
Tis easier to take refuge in plausible deniability & scream "I'm right! You're wrong!".
 
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