Abu Rashid
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Yep, that's how most of us became Muslims to begin with
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What is Islams attitude towards non Muslims?
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Yep, that's how most of us became Muslims to begin with
seraphim81
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Abu, because you started out your life as a non-Muslim and were a convert, does your attitude toward non-Muslims differ somewhat to those brought up as Muslims (especially those from the Middle East and surrounding nations)? Do you have cultural and lifestyle differences to Muslims who have been Islamic for a number of generations?
K.Venugopal
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Dear Abu Rashid, I have taken the liberty of commenting on your comment in "general religious debates" under the title "Islam - the quantum leap from believe in one's religion to disbelieve in another's religion" as debates are not allowed in Islamic DIR. Please visit.
http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...m-leap-believe-ones-religion.html#post1990908
http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...m-leap-believe-ones-religion.html#post1990908
Abu Rashid
Active Member
Madhuri,
That's a very good question. I'd like to think not, because I'd like to think all Muslims adhere to the one same set of divine principles which form their outlook in regards to such matters. However, this is obviously not strictly the case, there are differences, but I'd say they're not drawn upon convert/generational Muslim lines, but along lines of people's understanding of Islam and also the school of thought they choose to adhere to.
Well not necessarily. Amongst Muslims there is a very wide range of cultural and lifestyle differences anyway. I'm sure my Islam has a uniquely Aussie 'flavour' to it, but I don't think it would be that much different from any other Muslim raised in Australia, but from generationally-Muslim backgrounds. I've come across a lot of Muslims who are much more typically Aussie than me, put it that way.
That's a very good question. I'd like to think not, because I'd like to think all Muslims adhere to the one same set of divine principles which form their outlook in regards to such matters. However, this is obviously not strictly the case, there are differences, but I'd say they're not drawn upon convert/generational Muslim lines, but along lines of people's understanding of Islam and also the school of thought they choose to adhere to.
Well not necessarily. Amongst Muslims there is a very wide range of cultural and lifestyle differences anyway. I'm sure my Islam has a uniquely Aussie 'flavour' to it, but I don't think it would be that much different from any other Muslim raised in Australia, but from generationally-Muslim backgrounds. I've come across a lot of Muslims who are much more typically Aussie than me, put it that way.
seraphim81
Member
I know someone said that I should stop by my local mosque if I wanted to learn about Islam but I'm not sure where a mosque is near me, but I figured I could go down to a bookstore that is near me and see if they have a Quaran (hope I said that right). I am just a little caustious because if my family found out, they might take things the wrong way even if I do explain myself.
Abu Rashid
Active Member
Yeh you could, but just be careful you get a proper translation, as some of the ones sold in major bookstores are pretty dodgey translations.
You can also order a free Qur'an online, and read/listen online at the same site.
seraphim81
Member
I could do that but I have to go out anyway and also, I can't really trust that something can be ordered for free online. These days, it is best to be safe than sorry.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friends,
Personal understanding that all enlightened people are of the same understanding that religion is just a path or way towards enlightenment and each individual could take his/her own path which may be following various known paths at different times or in combinations or any manner the individual feels comfortable with. So in effect every religion accepts that there are numerous paths /ways/religions to TRUTH.
All organised religions have been started by followers of the enlightened people who may/maynot be enlightened and by others who had other desires and so the words were interpreted and moulded accordingly.
the word *kafir*
But we find that unenlightened people have used the word to state non-muslims and so all this misunderstanding across the globe amongst our own human race.
Love & rgds
Personal understanding that all enlightened people are of the same understanding that religion is just a path or way towards enlightenment and each individual could take his/her own path which may be following various known paths at different times or in combinations or any manner the individual feels comfortable with. So in effect every religion accepts that there are numerous paths /ways/religions to TRUTH.
All organised religions have been started by followers of the enlightened people who may/maynot be enlightened and by others who had other desires and so the words were interpreted and moulded accordingly.
the word *kafir*
non-believers of something which is akin to one God.Kaffir is derived from the Arabic word (Arabic: كافر
But we find that unenlightened people have used the word to state non-muslims and so all this misunderstanding across the globe amongst our own human race.
Love & rgds
seraphim81
Member
I'm not sure that I understand. Sorry, I am pretty slow today.:sorry1:
fatima_bintu_islam
Active Member
Thats your own point of view, while we're here discussing the Islamic view on the issue.
And please, can you lower the size of your writing as it is very hard to read? Thank you.
sonofskeptish
It is what it is
Seriously? Why?
seraphim81
Member
Why not? Just because I am Jewish shouldnt stop me from respecting and/or learning about Christianity or Islam or any other religion for that matter.
A:
9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war; but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Fa-itha insalakha al-ashhuru alhurumufaoqtuloo almushrikeena haythu wajadtumoohum wakhuthoohumwaohsuroohum waoqAAudoo lahum kulla marsadinfa-in taboo waaqamoo alssalatawaatawoo alzzakata fakhalloo sabeelahum innaAllaha ghafoorun raheemun
Link to quote http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/009.asp
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GURSIKH
chardi kla
seraphim81
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Abu Rashid
Active Member
Ohhh... how utterly evil of the Muslims!!! Too bad you forgot to mention (or were ignorant of the fact) that the Pagans were invading and waging war on the Muslims at the time this verse was revealed. Perhaps you'd better read the history which accompanies the revelation of those verses? Perhaps you'd better check on a map where Badr and Uhud (the locations where these battles took place) are in comparison to Madinah?
seraphim81
Member
Pagans seem so petty in those days.
Abu Rashid
Active Member
Pagans in Arabia were pretty fierce people, who oppressed and waged war on the Muslims incessantly. However, in today's anti-Islamic climate, the revisionist Islamophobes have re-cast them as poor unsuspecting innocents who were ravaged by the evil war-mongering Muslims.
Those who wish to pervert the truth will goto any length to complete their tainted image.
Those who wish to pervert the truth will goto any length to complete their tainted image.