Not to me. They are no other options, by the way we a discussing faith and I have said that without faith it is impossible to find spiritual knowledge, I posted a piece that says that logic in not a tool to find truth, you are adding to Pascal's wager and that is because distorting the argument you can claim to have rebuked it, but what youve done is to formulate a new one, one that does not interest me at all, I don't expect you to understand cause I know that you can't. you have no faith.
I'm not sure how else to say this. I understand that the only choice
to you is God. However, in reality (which is where we're discussing this), there are many more options. You can choose not to acknowledge them, if you want, but they're still there.
I'm "adding to Pascal's Wager" because as it is, the argument is false and doesn't work. It's like saying "Obviously it's better to be a lawyer because the only other option is being a trash collector". Clearly, there are hundreds or thousands of other possibilities for jobs in between those two. Again I understand that you're not interested in any but the false Pascal's Wager because using a correct one wouldn't get you to the same conclusion, and all you care about is supporting your side, you don't care about the truth.
So that's what that piece about logic was supposed to be saying? Yes, logic in and of itself doesn't necessarily get you the truth. You also have to have the correct premises. For instance, Pascals' Wager is actually logical, but only because it's built on a false premise. When you include the real premise, it becomes illogical. That's why I said "reason and logic" and not just "logic".
Then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand because I know you can't. You have no reason or logic. (See how two can play that game?
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I don't know why atheist like to call it blind when the fact is that with this gift we see more than they do, we have evidences of what is unseen by those that lack faith, I know in whom I trust, a spirit that you cannot see cause is a spirit, I don't understand why is it that the godless like to engage us in spiritual discussion either.
We like to call it blind, at least in cases like yours, because it blinds you to anything other than your belief. Another term for it is willful ignorance, which is exactly what you display. You don't see more than we do. You see things differently, and you purposely close your mind off to certain things so that your belief is not endangered. Faith lets you see things that aren't really there, and most of us find that useless. We'd rather see things that are really here and that do affect us. Unfortunately, many of those things you can't see due to your faith.
We like to engage you in spiritual discussion because it's sometimes funny, like in your case, and sometimes fascinating as in the cases of so many other RFers.
emiliano1431396 said:
The reasons for that is the Christians believe in a personal God, that God reveals Himself to the elect in an awesome personal way, that is the way it goes God has mercy and gives us faith then we know. It does not come by study or experimentation but by faith, there are some people that will never come to God because they are not of the elect, it isnt nice either, you must be convicted of your past sins and as from the beginning one tries to justify ones error, and using free will one decides that it is better to deny and reject God, the light that shows us all our error, some cannot give up their lust and submit to the discipline of Gods commands, so we have believer and non-believer.
We get it. You have to believe before you can believe. If you don't believe, then you'll never believe. The difference is that doesn't make sense to reasonable people.
Also, it's not "rejecting God". It's realizing that there's no such thing as your personal God.
