Why have Christians forgotten the fourth Commandment?

[sojourner]

And to subscribe to that type of thinking, is prophesied as being " the commandment and doctrine of men," of which Christ says, "in vain do they worship me."
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So, I guess that "real" Christianity should still be a small subset of Temple Judaism?"

 

[d.n.irvin]

So, I guess that "real" Christianity should still be a small subset of Temple Judaism?"

Real Christianity and real Christians are obedient to Christ and His teachings, according to the Old and New Testament. If "All scripture is given by inspiration of God -for doctrine reproof and correction"

Why then the problems with " Remember" the Sabbath day to keep it holy - the word "Remember" denotes something forgotten. Christ call us to remember the seventh day Sabbath that was instituted at Creation.

-Why are Christians not obedient to Christ's teachings? Especially since the Ten Commandments are an express teaching of Christ.

"Six days shall thou labour and do all thy work for the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord you God". If the text said first day of the week instead of the seventh -it would really be a non issue -wouldn't it?

Is this my interpretation of Scripture or is this what the Scripture says?

 

[McBell]

My point is, you have no point.
Until you submit proof Saturday is not the seventh day of the week you have no point.

Wrong.
it is on YOU to show, THROUGH SCRIPTURE, that Saturday is the "Seventh" day.
You made the claim, now back it up with Scripture.
You have yet to do so.

***MS WORD DOCUMENT
The thing that gets me is, everyone who makes posts has the internet, so how do you submit posts without doing your "homework first."
I'm still trying to figure out what reasoning you are using to arrive at the conclusion "nobody can really knows what day it is"
"The writings of historians, the records of chronographers, the languages of earth, the calendars of time, and the existence of the Jewish race—all testify to the fact that the weekly cycle on our calendars today is the same as in earlier centuries—going back to the time of Christ, to Moses, and beyond. "

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
2 Timothy 2:7,14,15,16,23,​

But despite all the empirical evidence you still don't believe, which brings me to my next point.

At the end of the day that's all it comes down to, what you believe and why you believe it. And that goes for everyone I not singling you out.​

What "empirical evidence" have you presented that shows that Saturday is the Seventh Day?
You have not presented any Scriptures that clearly show that it is.
All you have done is supported the generalities of the Scriptures on the subject with doctrines of men.
Fact is that the Bible is not clear which of our current days of the week lines up with the Seventh Day spoken of in the Bible.

even though Bible says Saturday is the day God sanctioned for worship.

This is a flat out lie.

The Bible says no such thing.
Fact is the Bible does not specify which of our current days of the week is the Seventh Day.
This should be plain to see because I can use your arguments to show that any day of the week is the Sabbath.

Regardless of evidence people believe whatever they want.

That is so true.
Regardless of the lack of evidence, you believe what you want.
Sad thing about you though, is that you expect everyone else to believe as you do as well.

 

[d.n.irvin]

Wrong.
it is on YOU to show, THROUGH SCRIPTURE, that Saturday is the "Seventh" day.
You made the claim, now back it up with Scripture.
You have yet to do so.

What "empirical evidence" have you presented that shows that Saturday is the Seventh Day?
You have not presented any Scriptures that clearly show that it is.
All you have done is supported the generalities of the Scriptures on the subject with doctrines of men.
Fact is that the Bible is not clear which of our current days of the week lines up with the Seventh Day spoken of in the Bible.

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This is a flat out lie.

The Bible says no such thing.
Fact is the Bible does not specify which of our current days of the week is the Seventh Day.
This should be plain to see because I can use your arguments to show that any day of the week is the Sabbath.

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That is so true.
Regardless of the lack of evidence, you believe what you want.
Sad thing about you though, is that you expect everyone else to believe as you do as well.

The writings of historians, the records of chronographers, the languages of earth, the calendars of time, and the existence of the Jewish race—all testify to the fact that the weekly cycle on our calendars today is the same as in earlier centuries—going back to the time of Christ, to Moses, and beyond.

In the beginning, God gave us the weekly seven-day cycle, with the Sabbath as the last day. That pattern has never changed. The seventh day of the week today is the true Bible Sabbath. Our seventh day is the Sabbath which Jesus kept; it was the Sabbath in the time of Moses when the Ten Commandments were written down. Historians and scientists all agree that this is true.



If there had been any change in the weekly cycle, between the time of Creation and the time of Moses, a correction would have been made when the Ten Commandments were given to the Hebrews. From that time, on down to the present, there have always been Jews to testify as to the true Sabbath. It is the same seventh day of the week which is on our calendars. While all the other ancient races are now intermingled, the Jews have been kept separate so they could testify to the fact that our seventh day is the Bible Sabbath!

The Bible says the world was created in six days and God rested on the Seventh day. 1-2-3-4-5-6- 7th
God told the Jews on Mt. Sinai to "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" - If they had no knowledge of what day it was -How could God expect them to keep it holy?

"What "empirical evidence" have you presented that shows that Saturday is the Seventh Day?"

Quote:
"By calculating the eclipses, it can be proven that no time has been lost and the creation days were seven, divided into 24 hours each."—Dr. Hinkley, The Watchman, July 1926 [Hinkley was a well-known astronomer].

Quote:
"The human race never lost the septenary [seven day] sequence of week days and that the Sabbath of these latter times comes down to us from Adam, though the ages, without a single lapse."—Dr. Totten, professor of astronomy at Yale University.

Quote:
"Seven has been the ancient and honored number among the nations of the earth. They have measured their time by weeks from the beginning. The origin of this was the Sabbath of God, as Moses has given the reasons for it in his writings."—Dr. Lyman Coleman.

Quote:
"There has been no change in our calendar in past centuries that has affected in any way the cycle of the week."—James Robertson, Director American Ephemeris, Navy Department, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C., March 12, 1932.

Quote:
"It can be said with assurance that not a day has been lost since Creation, and all the calendar changes notwithstanding, there has been no break in the weekly cycle."—Dr. Frank Jeffries, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and Research Director of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England.

Today is Friday October 26, 2007 preparation day for the Sabbath at sunset today the Sabbath begins- How do I know that?

Now it is your turn, prove first, that the days of the weekly cycle have changed or been rearranged some how as to confuse the first day of the with the seventh.

 

[d.n.irvin]

Why have Christians forgotten the fourth Commandment?

"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."Exodus 20:8

Especially since it is the only one that starts with "Remember".

Does Christ require obedience to nine or all ten Commandments ?

What does the Bible say?

 

[Storm]

What is this, your fourth thread on the same damn topic? Get a new tune, dude, this one is beyond old.

 

[Buttercup]

Ummm, are you lost?

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/biblical-debates/54952-why-do-most-christians-only-keep.html

 

[Super Universe]

The 4th one? Which one is that again?

 

[Smoke]

Does Christ require obedience to nine or all ten Commandments ?

Actually, six:

Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
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Or five, since "defraud not" isn't one of the original ten.

 

[Quagmire]

What is this, your fourth thread on the same damn topic? Get a new tune, dude, this one is beyond old.

It's his 5th, but who's counting.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Did you REALLY type this with a straight face??? How unethical to pass off suppositions as if they were fact. It makes me feel that the scriptures identifying people who worry about such tripe as charlatans is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

 

[McBell]

The Bible says the world was created in six days and God rested on the Seventh day. 1-2-3-4-5-6- 7th
God told the Jews on Mt. Sinai to "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" - If they had no knowledge of what day it was -How could God expect them to keep it holy?

"What "empirical evidence" have you presented that shows that Saturday is the Seventh Day?"


Today is Friday October 26, 2007 preparation day for the Sabbath at sunset today the Sabbath begins- How do I know that?

Now it is your turn, prove first, that the days of the weekly cycle have changed or been rearranged some how as to confuse the first day of the with the seventh.

Here once again you present several "doctrines of men" to back up your claim.
Where are the scriptures that you claim say that Saturday is the Seventh day?
You cannot present any because there are none to present.
Yet this fact does not even slow down your pushing your man made agenda on everyone else.

 

[ChristineES]

He wants to make sure we heard him the first time.
We already know. BUT... I do follow the 4th commandment and so do most Christians. I mean, isn't Saturday normally a day off from work (unless you have an odd working schedule, my husband's days off are Thursday and Friday and he works nights, so he rests from Friday at sunset and doesn't go to work until midnight on Saturday going into Sunday, which is after Sabbath has ended) The 4th commandment means you stop work and rest. I don't know about 7th day Adventists, but other Churches have services that are filled with a lot of work, so it would improper to have it on Sabbath anyway.

 

[Comprehend]

Why have Christians forgotten the fourth Commandment?

"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."Exodus 20:8

Especially since it is the only one that starts with "Remember".

Does Christ require obedience to nine or all ten Commandments ?

What does the Bible say?

We haven't forgotten.

 

[ChristineES]

Here is some scripture that may help answer your question:

Rom 14:14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean.

What is that verse out of context? Since you think that going to Church on a Sunday is a sin, then it is a sin for you. Since most of us think it is OK to go to Church on Sunday, it is not a sin for us.

 

[d.n.irvin]

Here once again you present several "doctrines of men" to back up your claim.
Where are the scriptures that you claim say that Saturday is the Seventh day?
You cannot present any because there are none to present.
Yet this fact does not even slow down your pushing your man made agenda on everyone else.

On what day does God ask you to worship Him, according to the Bible?

 

[Smoke]

On what day does God ask you to worship Him, according to the Bible?

Well, that's what I keep asking you on these various threads, but I haven't seen an answer yet. Do you believe that worship of God should be restricted to one day a week? Is it forbidden to worship God on Sunday?

And why does the fourth commandment only speak of rest, and not worship?

 

[d.n.irvin]

Did you REALLY type this with a straight face??? How unethical to pass off suppositions as if they were fact. It makes me feel that the scriptures identifying people who worry about such tripe as charlatans is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Obey the commandments of God or the commandments of men its all about worship let no man deceive you. The longest of the Ten Commandments in the middle of the Law, so plain, its about worship, from the very beginning. Satan wants your worship- God wants your worship- You choose who you will serve.

 

[d.n.irvin]

What is this, your fourth thread on the same damn topic? Get a new tune, dude, this one is beyond old.

You don't have to make any posts here. So why continue?, because you are really interested in what the Bible says?

 

[Storm]

You're spamming. :spam: