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Irony of the evolutionary belief

Eli G

Well-Known Member
But evolutionists' are sure humans will evolve to maybe(?) another species? who knows, do evolutionists?
They do.

The doctrine says that the evolution of new species is an infinite natural process with no fixed goal.

But even is there are thousands of human variations, all of us are humans and nothing else ... not even apes as some of they say.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Don't you say that the teaching of evolution "is well evidenced, predictive, and productive".

You may say things out of a manual, but you don't seem to know what you write. :rolleyes:
I seriously don't know what you're talking about.
How do I not know what I write?
Actually, that is false.
No, it's not. Do you really believe the flora and fauna of ten or a hundred million years ago was the same we see today? Do you really believe todays species have always existed?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
They do.

The doctrine says that the evolution of new species is an infinite natural process with no fixed goal.

But even is there are thousands of human variations, all of us are humans and nothing else ... not even apes as some of they say.
Why are we not apes? Don't we have the definitive, taxonomic features of apes?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
They do.

The doctrine says that the evolution of new species is an infinite natural process with no fixed goal.

But even is there are thousands of human variations, all of us are humans and nothing else ... not even apes as some of they say
That is why logic really doesn't play a part in the minds of some believers in evolution as if that's how we all came about, although I can understand their viewpoints (sometimes). Gorillas remain gorillas, chimps stay as chimps.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
I seriously don't know what you're talking about.
How do I not know what I write?

No, it's not. Do you really believe the flora and fauna of ten or a hundred million years ago was the same we see today? Do you really believe todays species have always existed?
Do you really think that the mosquitoes, flies and ants of millions of years ago were so different from the ones we see today?

Do a simple exercise: Google any of those animals trapped in amber... and you will understand reality better. It is not as they paint it in the books, nor were humans from thousands of years ago as physically horrible as they make you believe.

Put your feet on the ground and stop fantasizing.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
That is why logic really doesn't play a part in the minds of some believers in evolution as if that's how we all came about, although I can understand their viewpoints (sometimes). Gorillas remain gorillas, chimps stay as chimps.
They claim that the changes respond to certain factors...

If you compare the skin of an ape with that of a human you will see a big difference. Logic would say that if an ape's skin would change to adapt to the conditions, it would not be to make it more delicate and thin, but rather thicker, stronger and coarser, so that it would serve it better in its physical tasks.

But it is evident that human delicacy is not a result of any evolution from natural needs, but rather an excellent creation of God full of beauty and magnificence compared to the rest of the animal world.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That is why logic really doesn't play a part in the minds of some believers in evolution as if that's how we all came about, although I can understand their viewpoints (sometimes). Gorillas remain gorillas, chimps stay as chimps.
Do you expect the changes to occur as you watch?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Do you really think that the mosquitoes, flies and ants of millions of years ago were so different from the ones we see today?

Do a simple exercise: Google any of those animals trapped in amber... and you will understand reality better. It is not as they paint it in the books, nor were humans from thousands of years ago as physically horrible as they make you believe.

Put your feet on the ground and stop fantasizing.
Insects, have existed for millions of years, but species come and go with some frequency.
You must be aware that many familiar animals and plants did not exist millions of years ago. Where did they come from?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Commentators make mistakes sometimes. Scientists make mistakes. Yet scientists do say mankind is close, very close, not to Armageddon but rather the brink of -- catastrophe. "The members of the Science and Security Board have been deeply worried about the deteriorating state of the world." Closer and closer...
So if we live long enough, scientists predict disaster for mankind.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Ridiculously, some evolutionists claim that they can see them constantly. :)
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Commentators make mistakes sometimes. Scientists make mistakes. Yet scientists do say mankind is close, very close, not to Armageddon but rather the brink of -- catastrophe. "The members of the Science and Security Board have been deeply worried about the deteriorating state of the world." Closer and closer...
So if we live long enough, scientists predict disaster for mankind.

Lol. How many scientists do you know who make predictions of exact dates for the end of the world and encourage their followers to sell all their possessions and donate it to them? Did the Watch Tower Society ever compensate those who sold their houses and were left destitute?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They do.

The doctrine says that the evolution of new species is an infinite natural process with no fixed goal.

But even is there are thousands of human variations, all of us are humans and nothing else ... not even apes as some of they say.
No, you are an ape too. But do not worry. Your descendants, if you ever have any, will always be humans and also always be apes as well. You cannot evolve out of your clade.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I don't know how to answer that...
It's like you think mosquitoes, flies or ants are not species of animals.

They are not "species" They are much larger groups. There are countless species of mosquitoes. There are countless species of flies etc. But to try to claim that a large group is a "species" is like trying to claim that a country is a city within that country. You made a category error.
What makes you think that?
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
What an interesting thing to think about: why would I classify mosquitoes in many different "species"? If I only have one pair of them, wouldn't I get all the supposed "many" species of them out of that only couple?

It seems to me that evolutionists like to exaggerate things too much to make them look more impressive. :)

Noah may have had a simple pair of mosquitoes breeding on the ark at the beginning. They reproduce like rabbits, the very uncomfortable little characters.

BTW, why is there so much "speciation" of mosquitoes? What would be the evolutionary need for so many "species" of them, according to the teachers of the doctrine of the evolution of species?
 
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