By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

[2ndpillar]

Nope:
The first impeachment of President Donald Trump occurred on December 18, 2019. On that date, the House of Representatives adopted two articles of impeachment against Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. On February 5, 2020, the Senate voted to acquit Trump on both articles of impeachment... -- Was Trump impeahed - Bing

Thus, he was impeached but not removed.

The articles of impeachment were presented to the Senate, and the Senate acquitted Trump. The House can only present charges. The charges were supported by false charges presented by the Progressive Schiff, who was sanctioned by the Senate for lying. Schiff should have been impeached for lying to Congress and the American people and charged the 4 million dollar cost of the impeachment hearings. Schiff's supporters should be exiled to California, to live with their beloved Senator, and forced to drive EVs. As for other collaborators, such as the RINOs,workingwith the House committee, they are politically being eliminated. Apparently, other Democratic members on the House committee are in political peril as well. As for supporters of the committee, well, the sky hasn't fallen yet, but darkness is preceding their judgments (Joel 2:30-32).

 

[2ndpillar]

Oops, you didn't address the point, nor answer the question. You've deflected instead.


Calling someone triggered isn't an argument. It just betrays the fact that you're stuck on buzz words and meaningless far-right talking points.

Trump's documents that he stole were not locked up. Why do you believe everything he says despite all the evidence against it? That's cult-like behaviour

President Trump took documents, as did President Obama. The only one who stole documents, while being a Senator, which means he had to steal them, was Biden, and other Democratic operatives. As for someone trying to ignore my post, I think I just saw 10 post on file from you. Don't expect me to reply to them all. Make sure you have all your medications handy when reading my posts, we don't want to lose having your invigorating responses. If Trump gets elected, the border will be closed, and the cartels will have to look for other sources of income. I think they will find you an easy target. Maybe Newsome will save a space for you in California, although many of the Cartel members have already entered into the states.

 

[2ndpillar]

No. Smelling someone's hair is not the same thing as inserting one's fingers into another person's vagina without their consent.
Not even close.

Trump has been found civilly liable for sexual abuse and defamation of the person he sexually abused. Please notice how you completely sidestepped that very important point in some attempt to downgrade it to a lesser charge.

You support a man who has been found civilly liable for sexual abuse. In a court of law. Them's the facts.

According to the judge, he was convicted at a civil trial, in New York, which is as prejudiced as yourself, as previously indicated by your posts, by a preponderance of evidence, on the testimony of one person, for which Trump denied the charge. You arguing on a religious scriptural forum, you have failed to note that "scripture" requires at least two witnesses. With regards to Karma, when your wife gets peeved at you, she can have you take her to California on vacation, and claim you hit her, and then divorce you and take half your money, on her sole witness. That sounds fair to me.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why bother talking to this worthless cretin?

I do it for others who may be reading the thread.

 

[2ndpillar]

Nurses have always been required to be fully vaccinated if they're interacting with patients in a medical setting.
For obvious reasons, one would think. That's to protect their patients, which is like, one of the main components of their job description. My sister is a nurse.

I don't know why you point that out as some kind of big problem.

You have many problems, but the covid prick, was not an approved vaccine, and was used under emergency use provisions, and did not and will not prevent getting covid. It was experimental, and according to recent findings, is not as safe as claimed. My tenant nurse got covid at least twice after taking the vaccine. The whole thing was a sham, and the good thing is that they didn't require little children to take the covid vaccine, not that they didn't try. If you took the vaccine, I would expect that you will find unexpected consequences to that use.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The articles of impeachment were presented to the Senate, and the Senate acquitted Trump. The House can only present charges. The charges were supported by false charges presented by the Progressive Schiff, who was sanctioned by the Senate for lying. Schiff should have been impeached for lying to Congress and the American people and charged the 4 million dollar cost of the impeachment hearings. Schiff's supporters should be exiled to California, to live with their beloved Senator, and forced to drive EVs. As for other collaborators, such as the RINOs,workingwith the House committee, they are politically being eliminated. Apparently, other Democratic members on the House committee are in political peril as well. As for supporters of the committee, well, the sky hasn't fallen yet, but darkness is preceding their judgments (Joel 2:30-32).

Did you watch the impeachment hearings? They presented very well thought out and compelling arguments. That's both Democrats and Republicans.

So compelling in fact, that Trump has since been indicted on the basis of many of those arguments, by a grand jury and is awaiting criminal trial.

 

[2ndpillar]

And you sound like a dude trapped inside a bubble where you can't see anything outside of your extreme political bias and you assume others do the same and are the same. I don't view the world through the same narrow lens that you do. It's not our M.O. here in Canada either.

I'd love for you to define what you think "woke" means though. That's always fun.

"Woke" means you think you are better than those living in fly over country, such as the deplorables. That your humanistic laws are better than God's laws, and that you can hold your nose higher than that of your neighbor. Are you in Canada now? Apparently, Canada has had warmer winter, and people at this time may return to the high north. I wouldn't count on Canada remaining moderate in its climate circumstance.

 

[SkepticThinker]

President Trump took documents, as did President Obama. The only one who stole documents, while being a Senator, which means he had to steal them, was Biden, and other Democratic operatives. As for someone trying to ignore my post, I think I just saw 10 post on file from you. Don't expect me to reply to them all. Make sure you have all your medications handy when reading my posts, we don't want to lose having your invigorating responses. If Trump gets elected, the border will be closed, and the cartels will have to look for other sources of income. I think they will find you an easy target. Maybe Newsome will save a space for you in California, although many of the Cartel members have already entered into the states.

Still nope. And you've confused me with another poster again.

Save your personal attacks for someone else.

I'm still trying to get you to stay on topic. It's a tough task, to say the least.

The topic was Trump being found liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe you think your concepts are God's concepts but they are not.

No, I do not believe in a God. But you are still claiming that your own God is a liar.

 

[2ndpillar]

Did you watch the impeachment hearings? They presented very well thought out and compelling arguments. That's both Democrats and Republicans.

So compelling in fact, that Trump has since been indicted on the basis of many of those arguments, by a grand jury and is awaiting criminal trial.

The trials are not going well. Apparently the Democratic and RINOs on the committees erased evidence, and kept other evidence secret, which some of which is coming to light, and is undermining any case against Trump. Grand juries are composed of a prosecutor giving what evidence they choose to provide, to clueless jurors, with no cross examination. You can indict a ham sandwich in New York, just because you want to. I don't know, you may need to take a law refresher course, or at least get some of your facts straight. Maybe you should wait for the fat lady to sing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe the Bible is not a myth but is the Word of God and He knows what happened better than anyone because He was there.

But the Bible was written by man. You should study the history of the Bible. Genesis was written in roughly 500 BCE.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The trials are not going well. Apparently the Democratic and RINOs on the committees erased evidence, and kept other evidence secret, which some of which is coming to light, and is undermining any case against Trump. Grand juries are composed of a prosecutor giving what evidence they choose to provide, to clueless jurors, with no cross examination. You can indict a ham sandwich in New York, just because you want to. I don't know, you may need to take a law refresher course, or at least get some of your facts straight. Maybe you should wait for the fat lady to sing.

Where did you get that nonsense from? You appear to be conflating Trump's attempts to delay the trials by constantly attempting to stall by any means possible.

 

[SkepticThinker]

According to the judge, he was convicted at a civil trial, in New York, which is as prejudiced as yourself, as previously indicated by your posts, by a preponderance of evidence, on the testimony of one person, for which Trump denied the charge.

What evidence do you have to indicate the the judge and jury in this case were/are prejudiced?

You arguing on a religious scriptural forum, you have failed to note that "scripture" requires at least two witnesses.

Bible standards aren't court of law standards. Bible standards are much lower, apparently. No actual witnesses are required. Just hearsay.

With regards to Karma, when your wife gets peeved at you, she can have you take her to California on vacation, and claim you hit her, and then divorce you and take half your money, on her sole witness. That sounds fair to me.

Karma? For whom? Trump?

So, you don't think being held civilly liable for sexual abuse in a court of law really has any significant meaning. To you, it's just the same as some random thing someone on the street may have said. That's funny, how Trump supporters imagine that the "rule of law" doesn't apply to Trump. Even when the rule of law absolutely applies to him. Despite the apparent fact that his followers don't care when he flouts the law, the courts do. And Trump is feeling it in his pocket book. Despite the feelings of his followers (who apparently like to whine when other people have feelings ["snowflakes"] but expect everyone to care when they have feelings). Even when those feelings don't match up with reality. Funny stuff.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You have many problems,

I don't have very many problems at all.

but the covid prick, was not an approved vaccine, and was used under emergency use provisions

Outdated arguments that are no longer valid.

, and did not and will not prevent getting covid.

It did/does what vaccines are supposed to do, as already thoroughly explained.

It was experimental, and according to recent findings, is not as safe as claimed My tenant nurse got covid at least twice after taking the vaccine. The whole thing was a sham, and the good thing is that they didn't require little children to take the covid vaccine, not that they didn't try.

My sister got COVID many times during the height of the pandemic and even afterward. Why? Because she spent a lot more time around people infected with COVID on a daily basis than the average person generally did/does. My sister had both of her kids vaccinated as well.

There is no sham. COVID is real. One million people died in the USA alone. Seven million people worldwide. No sham. No joke.

If you took the vaccine, I would expect that you will find unexpected consequences to that use.

If I were going to have "unexpected consequences" they would have already occurred by now.

 

[2ndpillar]

The topic was Trump being found liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

Well, at least you now got that right. The civil verdict is now up on appeal. They had to change the laws to be able to prosecute. This is a political trial. to try and prevent the election of Trump. Maybe you can hold onto your pants and wait for the fat lady to sing. The appeals court already indicated that the prosecutor went out of bounds and cut the fine by 2/3s.

 

[SkepticThinker]

"Woke" means you think you are better than those living in fly over country, such as the deplorables.

Uh oh, are you woke then?

That your humanistic laws are better than God's laws,

They are.

Which god's laws are you talking about, anyway? How do we know any laws came from any gods and what are they?

and that you can hold your nose higher than that of your neighbor.

Uh oh, are you woke?

Are you in Canada now? Apparently, Canada has had warmer winter, and people at this time may return to the high north. I wouldn't count on Canada remaining moderate in its climate circumstance.

You don't seem to know the first thing about Canada.

So woke is ... things you don't like, by the sound of it. Much of which includes attitudes you've displayed yourself on this very thread. How interesting.

 

[2ndpillar]

Where did you get that nonsense from? You appear to be conflating Trump's attempts to delay the trials by constantly attempting to stall by any means possible.

Do you guys live in a vacuum? Here is reporting from far left MSN.

MSN

MSN

 

[2ndpillar]

Uh oh, are you woke then?

No, I live in "fly over country", and listed among the deplorables.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What evidence do you have to indicate the the judge and jury in this case were/are prejudiced?

Bible standards aren't court of law standards. Bible standards are much lower, apparently. No actual witnesses are required. Just hearsay.


Karma? For whom? Trump?

So, you don't think being held civilly liable for sexual abuse in a court of law really has any significant meaning. To you, it's just the same as some random thing someone on the street may have said. That's funny, how Trump supporters imagine that the "rule of law" doesn't apply to Trump. Even when the rule of law absolutely applies to him. Despite the apparent fact that his followers don't care when he flouts the law, the courts do. And Trump is feeling it in his pocket book. Despite the feelings of his followers (who apparently like to whine when other people have feelings ["snowflakes"] but expect everyone to care when they have feelings). Even when those feelings don't match up with reality. Funny stuff.

I can't reconcile claims of devout Christianity with support of a man like Donald Trump whose life is the antithesis of Christianity. In my view, the two positions of Christianity and Trump support are radically inconsistent.

If I were to support such a person, it would seem to me as if I had made a deal with the Devil in order to get something I want that isn't even biblical in most cases. I find that last bit ironic given that these devout supporters often flaunt biblical literalism and inerrancy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Stop right there.

What bearing do her looks have on anything? You do realize this is an antiquated argument used for decades against women who speak out about sexual abuse. Next you'll be asking "what was she wearing?" It seems you missed the point of the entire #MeToo movement, unfortunately.

Not only that, "looks" may have had something to do with it. When they were showing Trump a series of photos before the trial one was of Trump in a picture with Carroll. When asked if he knew who those people were in that picture he identified Carroll as "That's Marla. That's my wife". So he lied when he said that he was not attracted to her. He lied when he said that she was not beautiful. That recorded clip was presented as evidence and it may have been one of the prime factors in his loss. It is also the only time that I have heard Trump genuinely showing that he cared for someone. He sounded as if he regretted his divorce from Marla in the video.

I was just watching that again and that mistake slipped out when he had his lawyer, Ms. Habba with him. She is off camera but she is identified in the subtitles. This is why Trump almost never testifies in a trial. All he has are lies and it is too easy for an astute attorney to trip him up. After realizing his error he very quickly said about the photograph "It is very blurry".

From left to right, Trump, Carroll, her husband, and Trump's then wife. That picture does not look "very blurry" to me.