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People vs élites: the people is on the rise.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Nope. Most Americans support Ukraine. It's one thing they can agree on. Most Americans don't like bullies. Putin is a bully. Screw Putin. Free Ukraine! Free the Russian people from Russian oligarchs (elites)!
So the billions are better spent on foreign countries...
than on the healthcare of the American people.
There's no love for the fatherland, no solidarity, no compassion.
 

Viker

Häxan
So the billions are better spent on foreign countries...
than on the healthcare of the American people.
There's no love for the fatherland, no solidarity, no compassion.
There's billions more waiting for Republicans to side with everyday people hoping they could do the right thing.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Honestly I think that if the lounge-loving and the yacht-loving Democratic Party cared about the people, they would have done universal free healthcare, as there is in UK.
They will probably govern for 8 years, but they will do nothing about it.
They only care about their friends, their banking dynasties and they will use their billions to fund useless wars, like that in Ukraine.
And they have no mercy on the Americans who can't even afford surgeries that can say their lives.

So...I advise you to do a little bit of self-criticism, when it deals with American politics. ;)
It's the republicans (the party Trump and Bannon) who vehemently oppose universal healthcare, so why do they get a pass? The republicans favor the rich at the expense of the poor, so it is they who are the party of yacht-lovers.

Put the pizza down and think... :pizza:
 
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Samael_Khan

Goosebender
It's the republicans (the party Trump and Bannon) who vehemently oppose universal healthcare, so why do they get a pass? The republicans favor the rich at the expense of the poor, so it is they are the party of yacht-lovers.

Put the pizza down and think... :pizza:
I find it strange that a lot of people these days complain about the elite, yet believe that people like Musk, Trump and the rest are on their side, even though they are part of the elite.

If we want to see who is in power, we have to see who controls the resources, because they are the ones who are truly in power.

Do these people not questiom how thrse individuals became part of the elite in the first place? They did it through stepping on the interests of the masses.

They serve their own interests. And those interests are not in our best interests.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I find it strange that a lot of people these days complain about the elite, yet believe that people like Musk, Trump and the rest are on their side, even though they are part of the elite.

If we want to see who is in power, we have to see who controls the resources, because they are the ones who are truly in power.

Do these people not questiom how thrse individuals became part of the elite in the first place? They did it through stepping on the interests of the masses.

They serve their own interests. And those interests are not in our best interests.
Exactly. Trump and Musk wouldn't hesitate to step on their middle/lower class bootlickers and toss them under the bus.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's the republicans (the party Trump and Bannon) who vehemently oppose universal healthcare, so why do they get a pass? The republicans favor the rich at the expense of the poor, so it is they who are the party of yacht-lovers.
But at least Republicans don't pretend to be different. They are honest. They are for the wealthy.

The Dems do pretend to side with the people. With poor commoners.
Let's make a deal: when the Democratic Party implements free universal healthcare, I will side with them.
Quid pro quo.
;)
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
But at least Republicans don't pretend to be different. They are honest. They are for the wealthy.

The Dems do pretend to side with the people. With poor commoners.
Let's make a deal: when the Democratic Party implements free universal healthcare, I will side with them.
Quid pro quo.
;)
They are two sides of the same coin. Politics is a game so it cannot be taken seriously. What people must do is look at their policies and which one is better. Not at the propaganda.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Who would have guessed a protest in Germany would turn into another of your racist attacks on Americans :shrug:
I love Americans.
My country is so americanized that I cannot hate myself.
I mean...the problem here is that people need to distinguish people from the élites.

I side with Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr, and many American patriots like Roseanne Barr and Candace Owens.
Do I need to side with the American élites? No.

Dear John, Tulsi Gabbard quit the Dems because they were a party driven by an elitist cabal of warmongers.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I love Americans.
My country is so americanized that I cannot hate myself.
I mean...the problem here is that people need to distinguish people from the élites.

I side with Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr, and many American patriots like Roseanne Barr and Candace Owens.
Do I need to side with the American élites? No.

Dear John, Tulsi Gabbard quit the Dems because they were a party driven by an elitist cabal of warmongers.

The problem is conspiracy theory nonsense and racism.

I side with facts, evidence and common sense.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The problem is conspiracy theory nonsense and racism.
Racism? I said I support Candace Owens and Tulsi Gabbard.
They are not WASPs.

As for conspiracy theorism...well... they conspire against us. They conspired against Europe.
Denial is useless.
I side with facts, evidence and common sense.
I side with Truth. God knows the Truth.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member

An elitist cabal of warmongers, who are driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Racism? I said I support Candace Owens and Tulsi Gabbard.
They are not WASPs.

As for conspiracy theorism...well... they conspire against us. They conspired against Europe.
Denial is useless.

I side with Truth. God knows the Truth.

I have no idea what you're talking about but I guess another of your strawman.
 

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Racism? I said I support Candace Owens and Tulsi Gabbard.
They are not WASPs.

As for conspiracy theorism...well... they conspire against us. They conspired against Europe.
Denial is useless.

I side with Truth. God knows the Truth.
Just food for thought:

Saying that one cant be racist because they support Candace Owens and Tulsi Gabbard is like a person saying they can't be racist because they have a black friend. Or a political party saying they arent racist because they have a black party member. Or a Nazi party saying that they aren't anti semitic because they have a Jewish member.

I could say that I am not racist because I date a black woman. But if I think she is an exception to her culture and people, that her culture is trash, she is intelligent for her kind, or if she hates her own people and culture, and more, then I certainly am racist.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I just want people to address the issue without ad hominems.
Merci beaucoup.
The title is People vs élites. Just a reminder. ;)

Pretty hard to stay on topic when you keep changing it with another strawman.

Anyway the cricket has just started, I've shut the computer down and don't feel like fact checking conspiracy theory nonsense on my phone, so carry on.
 
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