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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Every single thing, huh?
That’s not entirely accurate…
No one, I repeat, no one, has explained thru natural causes, why the megafauna are discovered within the Permafrost, throughout the northern hemisphere! And some of those specimens have been (and are currently being) found in an excellent state of preservation!

How did they get there?


And the other evidences supporting it, haven’t been refuted, either, lol!
Counter arguments are not refutations.

I gave you an explanation and I know others did as well, you can scroll back to see them again.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Awww.
I wanted to hear why they think it is evidence of the world wide flood......

I wonder the same thing because they were obviously frozen quickly. A carcass bobbing about in water for 12 months would be rotten. A carcass bobbing about in water for a week goes rotten.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I gave you an explanation and I know others did as well, you can scroll back to see them again.
You never did. Do it now. Reasonable & accepted, please.

(Somebody once said, “they got stuck on the edges of a glacier”, or some similar nonsense. That’s why I want a reasonable explanation. Nothing was ever offered, that made sense.)
 
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John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
What a tactic. You never did.
Please, show everyone… prove me wrong.

I've done this for you before and you've just disappeared from the conversation after I've wasted my time. Last chance, do it again and I'll just put you on ignore.

Animals that drown in floods rot very quickly, within days. The animals in the permafrost were preserved quickly from something like a blizzard or falling down a crevice. There's 3 explanations.
 

Monty

Active Member
When were they refuted?
By deceived people who have abandoned science and reason?
I have already proven the Bible to be the true word of God.
The worldwide flood is a historic event.
All facts prove that it is true.

BTW, where are those many millions of chains of missing links if evolution were true?
I calculate the odds against that as over 10^10 million to 1.
The bible, however, says that the particular flood which drowned most of Noah's family (Gen 5:25-31) was only 15 cubits high, which is why it had no effect on kangaroos or sloths etc, or our aborigines who arrived here over 50,000 years before Adam's grandmother was a girl. And why that flood had no effect on Noah's brothers Jabal & Jubal (Gen 4:20-21) and their families either, since they were also living outside the flooded area.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
I've done this for you before and you've just disappeared from the conversation after I've wasted my time. Last chance, do it again and I'll just put you on ignore.

Animals that drown in floods rot very quickly, within days. The animals in the permafrost were preserved quickly from something like a blizzard or falling down a crevice. There's 3 explanations.
None of those fit the evidence. “Falling down a crevice “? There are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of them, estimated by the area of discovery (down within the Permafrost), their close proximity to each other. Sorry, blizzards don’t put objects in the ground, only on top of the ground. As I said, I want reasonable explanations, as to why these animals are within the Permafrost.


No one has provided any explanation, that covers the scope of what is found.

It was no ‘asteroids hitting the oceans’ — otherwise, the Permafrost would be salt water.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
None of those fit the evidence. “Falling down a crevice “? There are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of them, estimated by the area of discovery (down within the Permafrost), their close proximity to each other. Sorry, blizzards don’t put objects in the ground, only on top of the ground. As I said, I want reasonable explanations, as to why these animals are within the Permafrost.


No one has provided any explanation, that covers the scope of what is found.

It was no ‘asteroids hitting the oceans’ — otherwise, the Permafrost would be salt water.

What's your evidence for millions of well preserved specimens in permafrost?

And if they're well preserved it is obvious they were not killed in a flood.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Animals that drown in floods rot very quickly, within days.
And if they're well preserved it is obvious they were not killed in a flood.
Do you really think, when the vapor / water canopy broke, that the water falling in the extreme northern hemispheres, would fall as rain?
Come on.

The water falling down in those latitudes, would have precipitated as sleet, ice, or snow.

Goodnight.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Do you really think, when the vapor / water canopy broke, that the water falling in the extreme northern hemispheres, would fall as rain?
Come on.

The water falling down in those latitudes, would have precipitated as sleet, ice, or snow.

Goodnight.

My bible and all the versions I've looked at online don't mention ice or snow and you still need to provide evidence for your claim of millions of well preserved specimens.
 

Monty

Active Member
Great thread. The evidence is unanswerable.
But what is your evidence to support your hypothesis that less than 4000 years ago the ocean level magically rose at the rate of 9.2 metres per hour for 40 days from an extra 4.5 billion cubic kilometres of water which then magically disappeared, given that there is about 1.4 billion cubic kilometres of water on Earth?
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
My bible and all the versions I've looked at online don't mention ice or snow…
So, you don’t believe there would be ice & snow in the extreme northern latitudes? Interesting…
…and you still need to provide evidence for your claim of millions of well preserved specimens.
Well, I did not say “millions of well-preserved specimens”, did I?
No. I said there were possibly millions of specimens (animals).

However, many have been found well-preserved.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
But what is your evidence to support your hypothesis that less than 4000 years ago the ocean level magically rose at the rate of 9.2 metres per hour for 40 days from an extra 4.5 billion cubic kilometres of water which then magically disappeared, given that there is about 1.4 billion cubic kilometres of water on Earth?
When they tell you it is the Bible, be sure to ask them which version...
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
So, you don’t believe there would be ice & snow in the extreme northern latitudes? Interesting…

Well, I did not say “millions of well-preserved specimens”, did I?
No. I said there were possibly millions of specimens (animals).

However, many have been found well-preserved.

Ok, fair enough. You were talking about well preserved megafauna so hopefully you understand my confusion. So now I'm confused why you mentioned it at all.

You didn't tell me which bible version says there were sheets of ice falling.
 

Monty

Active Member
When they tell you it is the Bible, be sure to ask them which version...
It's certainly not the KJV or Hebrew versions since they both say that the flood height was only 15 cubits and that the flood water drained away like every other similar flood before and since.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
None of those fit the evidence. “Falling down a crevice “? There are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of them, estimated by the area of discovery (down within the Permafrost), their close proximity to each other. Sorry, blizzards don’t put objects in the ground, only on top of the ground. As I said, I want reasonable explanations, as to why these animals are within the Permafrost.


No one has provided any explanation, that covers the scope of what is found.

It was no ‘asteroids hitting the oceans’ — otherwise, the Permafrost would be salt water.
Are you sure about that? I know that there is a good number but I have never heard anything like that.

What science based source did you get that from?
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Ok, fair enough. You were talking about well preserved megafauna so hopefully you understand my confusion. So now I'm confused why you mentioned it at all.

You didn't tell me which bible version says there were sheets of ice falling.
You didn’t answer my question…
you don’t believe the rain would manifest as ice & snow in the extreme northern latitudes?

If not, why not?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Do you really think, when the vapor / water canopy broke, that the water falling in the extreme northern hemispheres, would fall as rain?
Come on.

The water falling down in those latitudes, would have precipitated as sleet, ice, or snow.

Goodnight.
How did the ice canopy stay up? How high was it? To know what form the water would be in depends upon answers to those questions. The problem is that if it is stationary the sheer weight of the ice would have almost certainly have caused it to fail.
 
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