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Southern Baptist Convention says "no" to women pastors

Are women as capable of offering spiritual guidance and wisdom as men?

  • Yes, of course.

    Votes: 20 60.6%
  • No, the Bible makes that clear.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, and the Bible is just plain wrong,

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • A woman's place is in the home.

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Only after their husband has explained it to them.

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Total voters
    33

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
They enemies were practicing child sacrifice - you tell me who the criminals are?
Oh cool, so two wrongs make a right? Where does it say that in the Bible?

Also, why is god apparently so weak that he can't take out a civilization of child sacrificers on his own, without having to ask lowly humans to break a commandment and then commit further immoral actions like kidnapping and rape?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Gravity is not an intrinsic principle or constant, that transcends its environment or sphere - mass attracts mass due to its proximity, simply because God made it so.
If God wanted rain to feel dry and ice to feel warm, that's entirely His prerogative and capability.
You have two arms and two legs, and cannot reproduce other humans on your own, because that's exactly how God designed mankind.
Prove it.
You cannot affirm that any of the scientific principles that you accept as fact, are so by necessity - they are what they are simply because they are - nothing else demands that they must remain so under any other environment.
Funny coming from the poster that makes a bunch of declarative statements with zero evidence backing them up.
But, evil is always evil, and love is always love, by necessity. It can never be the other way around - wisdom will always undermine any attempt to make good, bad, or bad, good.
Darkness cannot dispel light, but light can always obliterate the darkness. God is holy, and that is the only constant in the universe.
 

DNB

Christian
There's no magic formula. IMO, it's mostly based on hearsay information mixed in with some facts, so my intent is to try and understand what the authors were trying to say and utilize in my daily life that which seems to help me and maybe others.
One needs more reliability and conviction if they're going to abide by the precepts of a book, that claims to hold the keys to eternal life and death.
 

DNB

Christian
Oh cool, so two wrongs make a right? Where does it say that in the Bible?

Also, why is god apparently so weak that he can't take out a civilization of child sacrificers on his own, without having to ask lowly humans to break a commandment and then commit further immoral actions like kidnapping and rape?
Disobedience to God, is like sorcery and divination in His eyes. Therefore, we are tested in many ways.
 

DNB

Christian
Looks like some others here agree with me.

And perhaps you do as well, because I don't see an answer to my question or a rebuttal here, or even a clarification of your position. Just some hand waving. :shrug:
I can't remember if it was you or not, where I was accused of not answering the question.
And then, when I tried to recapitulate all that had been said in regard to the point that I was making, I received no response.
I believe that you're applying a double standard here.
 

DNB

Christian
Your answer to my question is "No."
My mistake - I never should have taken you seriously in the first place - your post had baseless attitude written all over it, ...exactly like this one.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
One needs more reliability and conviction if they're going to abide by the precepts of a book, that claims to hold the keys to eternal life and death.
Everyone makes their own choice based on what they believe or not believe, nor do I accept the premise that one must see Jesus as being Divine because what of all the people who lived before Jesus' time or who never even heard of him? Are they supposedly doomed? Why should I accept Christianity as supposedly being the only way to please God?
 

DNB

Christian
Everyone makes their own choice based on what they believe or not believe, nor do I accept the premise that one must see Jesus as being Divine because what of all the people who lived before Jesus' time or who never even heard of him? Are they supposedly doomed? Why should I accept Christianity as supposedly being the only way to please God?
Jesus is not divine, never was, and never will be. Just for the record. But, I do believe that he is the Messiah, sent from God to die for the sins of man.
My point was simply that you had a rather insignificant view of Jesus to be classified as a Christian. But, I'm realizing now that, that wasn't your point - you're not claiming to be convicted by the Gospel of Jesus.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Jesus is not divine, never was, and never will be. Just for the record. But, I do believe that he is the Messiah, sent from God to die for the sins of man.
My point was simply that you had a rather insignificant view of Jesus to be classified as a Christian. But, I'm realizing now that, that wasn't your point - you're not claiming to be convicted by the Gospel of Jesus.
So you are not a mainstream Christian. What makes your version of Jesus right and the others wrong?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Everyone makes their own choice based on what they believe or not believe, nor do I accept the premise that one must see Jesus as being Divine because what of all the people who lived before Jesus' time or who never even heard of him? Are they supposedly doomed? Why should I accept Christianity as supposedly being the only way to please God?

If you don't accept it you have to narfle the garthok. So there's that lol
 

DNB

Christian
So you are not a mainstream Christian. What makes your version of Jesus right and the others wrong?
Wise, Biblical exegesis.
That is, whoever employs proper Biblical hermeneutics, and makes the most sense when interpreting the text.
That is how one defines orthodox doctrine.

...it's an utter shame that this most elementary and obvious principle, had to be explained to you, seriously.
You atheists keep asking, in general, that stupid question all the time.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wise, Biblical exegesis.
That is, whoever employs proper Biblical hermeneutics, and makes the most sense when interpreting the text.
That is how one defines orthodox doctrine.

...it's an utter shame that this most elementary and obvious principle, had to be explained to you, seriously.
You atheists keep asking, in general, that stupid question all the time.
If all you can do is to claim "wise Biblical exegesis" you probably are not employing it. And the fact that you cannot seem to answer that question, as you just failed to you tell us that it is really not a stupid question at all.

I could probably point out some very serious problems with your "exegesis" in short order.
 

DNB

Christian
If all you can do is to claim "wise Biblical exegesis" you probably are not employing it. And the fact that you cannot seem to answer that question, as you just failed to you tell us that it is really not a stupid question at all.

I could probably point out some very serious problems with your "exegesis" in short order.
Thank you - you just reminded me, again, why I never respond to your posts - shame on me for thinking that this time might be different.
 
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