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Jesus Prayed

Eli G

Well-Known Member
In Jewish history, there have always been those who took it literally, and others who understood it was myth.
Is that what your modern rabbis teach you? Or you are just pretending you are a Jew?

Modern leaders of Judaism got a big problem with people faking Judaism online :eek:
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Is that what your modern rabbis teach you? Or you are just pretending you are a Jew?

Modern leaders of Judaism got a big problem with people faking Judaism online :eek:
Are you just pretending to be a JW? I agree that there are Jewish pretenders -- black hebrew israelites and assorted chrsitians who think believers in Jesus are the true Jews. In fact, only Jewish law can determimne what a Jew is, and it says a Jew is one born of a Jewish mom or one who has made a formal conversion to Judiasm. Of course I'm a Jew according to Jewish law. Indeed, I'm a religious jew.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
I never heard of a Jew telling that the content of the Bible is myth.
You may be a Jew, but not a Jewish ... I cann't believe you.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
What (...) is a Jewish? o_O

Is this something apart from a Jew?
Well, I am trying to diferenciate people who say they are Jew because their mother is or who are converted to Judaism, from those who are Jew on birth but don't practice that religion. Some of them come to internet using their born-Jew status to fake they are practionists of that religion.

Since I do not know if there are two diferent words for that in English, I use Jew and Jewish to apply to persons and enmark the diference of both.
 

Viker

Häxan
Well, I am trying to diferenciate people who say they are Jew because their mother is or who are cverted, than those who are Jew on birth but don't practice that religion. Some of them come to internet using their born-Jew status to fake they are practionist of that religion.

Since I do not know if there are two diferent words for that in English, I use Jew and Jewish to apply to persons and enmark the diference of both.
It'd probably be best to use a word like imposter or fake. You had me confused for a second.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
It'd probably be best to use a word like imposter or fake. You had me confused for a second.
That is not what I meant.

I call JEW a person who belongs to that ethnicity, and JEWISH the practinioner of that religion.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I never heard of a Jew telling that the content of the Bible is myth.
You may be a Jew, but not a Jewish ... I cann't believe you.
I never said the entire Tanakh was a myth. The Tanakh incorporates MANY different genres of literature -- myth, legend, history, poems and song, proverbs, legal documents... It is important for the comprehension of the Tanakh to be able to properly identify what genre you are reading.

There are plenty of religious Jews who understand that Gen 1 is a myth.
 
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Eli G

Well-Known Member
I never said the entire Tanakh was a myth. The Tanakh incorporates MANY different genres of literature -- myth, legend, history, poems and song, proverbs, legal documents... It is important for the comprehension of the Tanakh to be able to properly identiry what genre you are reading.

There are plengy of religious Jews who understand that Gen 1 is a myth.
Since when do you believe that? Since you get along with the new "biblical scholars" generation?

Do you think authentic Jews, in biblical times, thought that?

The last time I checked in my Bible, every time they got along with non-believers and their ideas and practices, things got pretty bad for them. God calls that practice: prostitution.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
New generation of "biblical scholars" say there was not an Enoch, neither a Noah or a Deluge, that there was not a Moses or a trek out of Egypt, that there was not an opening of the sea or a long exodus through the desert; etc.

Do you consider that these biblical events are also myths, as they say?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Adam was not a Jew. Adam was not even a historical person. A small part of Genesis speaks in mythological terms of the time before Abraham. Starting in chapter 12, it really doesn't address the non-Jewish world again. The focus is on Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and their descendents the rest of the Torah, and in the prophets.
That's what I was wondering. So if you believe Adam was not a historical person, why wonder if what Moses wrote was true. Is that what rabbis believe, that Adam was not a historical person? What about Abraham? Do you think he was a "historical" person? :) I mean for real.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Since when do you believe that? Since you get along with the new "biblical scholars" generation?

Do you think authentic Jews, in biblical times, thought that?

The last time I checked in my Bible, every time they got along with non-believers and their ideas and practices, things got pretty bad for them. God calls that practice: prostitution.
I have already answered this. Do you have a reading problem? ONe more time. In Jewish history, there have always been some Jews who take Gen 1 as literal history, and other Jews who have understood that it is not.

Jews value scholarship. It is another tool for studying the Torah.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
That's what I was wondering. So if you believe Adam was not a historical person, why wonder if what Moses wrote was true. Is that what rabbis believe, that Adam was not a historical person? What about Abraham? Do you think he was a "historical" person? :) I mean for real.
We have the existence of teh Law. Someone gave us that law. Call that person Moses.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
We have the existence of teh Law. Someone gave us that law. Call that person Moses.
So, you don't even believe that Moses was a real man who lived in Egypt, hehehehe.
This world is getting crazier every day; these new age "scholars" are killing the history just because.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
YesI stayed with Sai Baba for 10 years. Were the most amazing years of my life
First of all, who was (or is) Sai Baba. Please excuse my not knowing. And secondly, why do you say they were the most amazing years of your life?
 
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