If Not Science...

[dybmh]

Sure there exits many possible ways to answer that question. Flipping a coin would be one way.

How about if you had a plethora of facts and information you could analyze to base your decision on? Science is the process of gathering facts and information you can use to base your decision on.

Well, we're trying that, and thank you.

Where we're struggling is that the data makes us feel multiple emotions, both good and bad, both excited anticipation and discouraged caution.

It may come down to a coin toss, or maybe we'll do nothing and make no change. Maybe that's the smart choice. Although... doing nothing seems wrong too, our current situation is not making us happy either and potentially is unsustainable.

It's a question of retiring early and selling the family business, what do we need, what do we want, how to do we know...

 

[Nakosis]

AI?
Sure more science.

 

[questfortruth]

Yes, research is part of science.

A popular question is "why there is something instead of nothing?"

But the most advanced is "how to define the notion of question?" The latter is mental weapon, not a question. Because creates mental loop in the brain and brain heats over.

 

[Nakosis]

Depends on the question, obviously. (Do I actually need to say this?)

For questions about nature, i.e. the physical world, then science is the right tool. If it is about the arts or humanities, law or religion, then science is in most cases the wrong tool.

You can't fix everything with just a spanner.

Ok, what would be the better method to answer some of these questions?

 

[Soandso]

Hmmm.... It's hard to imagine a system for improving our understanding of the objective world that would work better than science, but then again there was a time in the ancient past where people wouldn't be able to imagine a system that would work as well as science has, either. I imagine there may be a better system that we uncover in the future that might have science in it's roots, much like science has philosophy in it's roots

Maybe something utilizing super computers and AI to a degree we can't comprehend? It would be interesting to see what direction AI and quantum computing takes us in the far future. Kind of scary, too

 

[Augustus]

Ok, what is the better method?

The point is that some questions cannot be answered scientifically.

Further still, some questions can be answered in a manner that appears scientific, but the answer is unreliable and often worse than using other methods. This is because some people underestimate the limitations of scientific methods in some areas, and think anything that seems to be 'scientific' is better than something that is not (this is scientism).

An example of the above would be in finance, where several "scientific" ways to measure risk or optimal investment strategies have failed causing crises in the financial markets, and even a global financial crisis.

There is no single "better method" although things like heuristics, experience and artisanship can work better in some situations (such as the above example).

 

[Nakosis]

A popular question is "why there is something instead of nothing?"

But the most advanced is "how to define the notion of question?" The latter is mental weapon, not a question. Because creates mental loop in the brain and brain heats over.

I'm not asking for the questions you feel are unanswerable. I'm asking for the method you feel is best to go about answering them.

You can say prayer if you want but then I'd question the reliability of that method.

 

[questfortruth]

I'm asking for the method you feel is best to go about answering them.

The answer simply comes.

 

[PureX]

Then what is the better method to use to find the answer to a question?

Don't you think that will depend on the nature of the question?

 

[questfortruth]

Don't you think that will depend on the nature of the question?

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[questfortruth]

Don't you think that will depend on the nature of the question?

 

[Nakosis]

The point is that some questions cannot be answered scientifically.

Which is not the point of this thread but ok a point you want to make.

Ill just point out that im not making an argument against your point.

sure there are other methods one can use because we currently lack the scientific knowledge/facts.

Further still, some questions can be answered in a manner that appears scientific, but the answer is unreliable and often worse than using other methods. This is because some people underestimate the limitations of scientific methods in some areas, and think anything that seems to be 'scientific' is better than something that is not (this is scientism).

An example of the above would be in finance, where several "scientific" ways to measure risk or optimal investment strategies have failed causing crises in the financial markets, and even a global financial crisis.

There is no single "better method" although things like heuristics, experience and artisanship can work better in some situations (such as the above example).

These other methods you list I would say are part of the scientific process.

 

[Nakosis]

The answer simply comes.

We call those facts which can then be use to further scientific investigation.

 

[PureX]

Now that science has replaced God, ALL processes have become part of the "scientific process". And ALL results are now the gift of the gods of scientism.

ALL HAIL SCIENTISM!

 

[Nakosis]

Don't you think that will depend on the nature of the question?

No, I think any through attempt to answer any question ends up using science.
However there is no requirement to be through.

 

[Nakosis]

Now that science has replaced God, ALL processes have become part of the "scientific process". And ALL results are now the gift of the gods of scientism.

ALL HAIL SCIENTISM!

So, I'll take that to mean you haven't been able to come up with something better.

 

[PureX]

So, I'll take that to mean you haven't been able to come up with something better.

You have just defined ANY other possibility out of existence, and then asked for one.

Doesn't that sound a bit disingenuous even to you?

 

[Augustus]

These other methods you list I would say are part of the scientific process.

How would you define scientific process?

 

[Heyo]

Then what is the better method to use to find the answer to a question?

Ask the question, make up an answer and post it on the internet.

You'll be corrected in no time.

 

[questfortruth]

We call those facts which can then be use to further scientific investigation.

Science cannot predict the future.