Robot Lawyer To Appear In Court

[Revoltingest]

Not all that ready to replace lawyers,
despite the ambitions of its creator.
World's first 'robot lawyer' will be defending a human in court next month

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not all that ready to replace lawyers,
despite the ambitions of its creator.
World's first 'robot lawyer' will be defending a human in court next month

Oh, woe to those silly apes who think courts are ruled by logic and reason and won't have a biased judge.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, woe to those silly apes who think courts are ruled by logic and reason and won't have a biased judge.

I'll wager that many judges won't
allow the phone in court.
Lawyers can bring'm in, but not
defendants or plaintiffs.

 

[Stevicus]

What about robot judges?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'll wager that many judges won't
allow the phone in court.

Ultimately I just don't see a robot having great lawyer potential. Ideally it would, but great lawyers are great bull****ers and some of the absurdities that have gotten someone acquitted a robot just isn't going to be able to do.
And with trials, and definitely I'd rather have Kirk defending me than Spock. Spock would no doubt know every in and out of the case and how to correctly view and apply things but he'd lose the jury. Kirk would be getting as close to a sexual relationship with the lady jurors as he's legally allowed to have. That wins juror cases, not hard logic.

 

[sun rise]

Given the track record of Trump's lawyers, it has to be better than them already. My next will will be started by me with fill-in-the-blanks and reviewed by a lawyer. There's a fully automated one that I tried just for kicks and it came up with a question no lawyer ever asked. That is "if you and your spouse die at the same time" what do you want to happen? Without kids, our choice of remaining cash differs so we'll do a 50/50 split.

I also learned that we did not have to specify an executor and could leave it up to the beneficiaries.

So, GO AI LAWYER GO.

And as the article said
a lot of lawyers are just charging way too much money to copy and paste documents and I think they will definitely be replaced, and they should be replaced,’

 

[Revoltingest]

Ultimately I just don't see a robot having great lawyer potential. Ideally it would, but great lawyers are great bull****ers and some of the absurdities that have gotten someone acquitted a robot just isn't going to be able to do.
And with trials, and definitely I'd rather have Kirk defending me than Spock. Spock would no doubt know every in and out of the case and how to correctly view and apply things but he'd lose the jury. Kirk would be getting as close to a sexual relationship with the lady jurors as he's legally allowed to have. That wins juror cases, not hard logic.

It's all a matter of time.
And AI has the potential to be
programmed to be honest.

 

[Revoltingest]

a lot of lawyers are just charging way too much money to copy and paste documents and I think they will definitely be replaced, and they should be replaced,’

That under-estimates the job.
Reminds me of a client I once had. We needed
an architect to draw up plans to renovate a building.
He complained that the price was too high, cuz all
the architect did was take a computer mouse, & go
"bing bing bing".
Also reminds me of an old story about a journalist
who criticized some building failure as "designed by
a computer". An architect criticized the article as
being "written by a word processor".

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's all a matter of time.
And AI has the potential to be
programmed to be honest.

If the art world is rejecting AI I don't see it being looked upon favorably in the world of law, where things tend to be more conservative.

 

[sun rise]

That under-estimates the job.
Reminds me of a client I once had. We needed
an architect to draw up plans to renovate a building.
He complained that the price was too high, cuz all
the architect did was take a computer mouse, & go
"bing bing bing".
Also reminds me of an old story about a journalist
who criticized some building failure as "designed by
a computer". An architect criticized the article as
being "written by a word processor".

That does not underestimate the job for simple wills. Nolo press (among others) has a great guide. We used them to set up a living trust for my father-in-law but did not have enough time to move everything there before he died. The lawyer totally hated it and questioned its legality so I had to demand that he either support us, his clients, or we'd find another lawyer. The nolo press living trust was accepted by the judge.

 

[Revoltingest]

If the art world is rejecting AI I don't see it being looked upon favorably in the world of law, where things tend to be more conservative.

The art world is all about fashion & scarcity
related to perceived financial value. It's not
comparable to computer assisted law.

 

[sun rise]

If the art world is rejecting AI I don't see it being looked upon favorably in the world of law, where things tend to be more conservative.

People including artists hate the idea of being replaced by software. It reminds me of how workers resisted factory automation and we had an "arts and crafts" era for furniture.

 

[Revoltingest]

That does not underestimate the job for simple wills. Nolo press (among others) has a great guide. We used them to set up a living trust for my father-in-law but did not have enough time to move everything there before he died. The lawyer totally hated it and questioned its legality so I had to demand that he either support us, his clients, or we'd find another lawyer. The nolo press living trust was accepted by the judge.

A lawyer's role in drafting wills & trusts is more
than just filling out a document. Especially with
people having more complex affairs, there are
many decisions that require analysis & expertise.
Been there & done that.
Same goes for people who think Turbotax will
handle everything well. Never presume that
others' affairs are as simple as yours are.

 

[sun rise]

A lawyer's role in drafting wills & trusts is more
than just filling out a document. Especially with
people having more complex affairs, there are
many decisions that require analysis & expertise.
Been there & done that.

Note that I wrote SIMPLE wills. Been there. Done that.

 

[Stevicus]

Ultimately I just don't see a robot having great lawyer potential. Ideally it would, but great lawyers are great bull****ers and some of the absurdities that have gotten someone acquitted a robot just isn't going to be able to do.
And with trials, and definitely I'd rather have Kirk defending me than Spock. Spock would no doubt know every in and out of the case and how to correctly view and apply things but he'd lose the jury. Kirk would be getting as close to a sexual relationship with the lady jurors as he's legally allowed to have. That wins juror cases, not hard logic.

In that case, I'd rather have Samuel T. Cogley represent me, as he doesn't even use a computer at all. He has books, books, books. Perry Mason would be good, as he never lost a case.

 

[sun rise]

"I recognize this 'court system' as the one that agreed with that line from Shakespeare,
'Kill all the lawyers!'"
"Which was done"
"Leading to the rule: 'Guilty until proven innocent'"
"Of course! Bringing the innocent to trial would be unfair."

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The art world is all about fashion & scarcity
related to perceived financial value. It's not
comparable to computer assisted law.

The point is that the art world tends to be more liberal and open to new ideas.

 

[Revoltingest]

The point is that the art world tends to be more liberal and open to new ideas.

New ideas...to which they all march in lockstep.

 

[idea]

What about robot judges?

I'd take my chances with a robot judge over a human any day, so long as it was programmed not to be biased.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

New ideas...to which they all march in lockstep.

The art world debated on if a signed urinal counts as art or not. That world has heavily shunned and even in some places banned AI art.
The legal world, as a necessity of its function and stability, is more conservative than the art world.