I am the living bread

[paarsurrey]

You can oppose also if you want. Those that post on a public forum should be Challenged about the statements they make?




@paarsurrey Are you saying that you Accept only the Hebrew Scriptures/Old Testament and Reject the Greek Scriptures/New Testament? If yes, why do you hold that position? What is your Religion?

I am an Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslim, follower of the "Second Coming 1835-1908".Right?
Regards

 

[RabbiO]

.Right?

The above is a question. You’re asking if you are correct about something, but I’m not sure what it is you’re asking if you are correct about. Can you clarify?

 

[Elihoenai]

Think about your examples.

Are there people who can drive through red traffic lights without being punished?
As in ambulances, fire department, and police. Why?

Are there people who can commit murder without being punished?
As in army. Why?

What is the difference? How is the line between right and wrong decided?

@WonderingWorrier Do you believe in Elohim/God? Do you believe that the Devil/Satan Exist? You are speaking like a Heathen Atheist.

The Powers that exist are Elohim/God Ordained. Elohim/God Punishes All Evildoers one way or the other. Just because you cannot See the Punishment does not mean they are not being Punished.

Ambulances, Fire Department, and Police have Authority to drive through Red Light that was given by Elohim/God. People recognise this Authority and give them Right of Way to provide Critical Services.

Is that how faith determines who is right? Fight it out and see who is left.

Yes, In the World of Brutes Elohim/God has Ordained that Might is Right. Hugs and Kisses don't work in the World of Brutes. Do you understand that there are Men that like to practice Violence and War?

Equality would be an incomparable standard of good.

Matthew 20:25

25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.


There is no Equality and there is Never going to be Equality. Some people are More Sinful than others. Some people are More Devoted/Committed than others. Based the on the level of Commitment one Person rules over another.

In the World you will never get Equality because Men of Power must Feel Superior and Better to others under their Authority. This is Elohim/God Ordained Power.

 

[Elihoenai]

Faith is blind to the words. Wandering in darkness. Not knowing.
Jesus spoke of the blind guides. The blind leading the blind off the path and falling into the ditch.


What did the blind man say after Jesus healed him. He said: I see men as trees walking.


Faith cant see men as trees walking.


Can you hear the trees clapping their hands?

For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. Isaiah


Listen to the speech of the trees in the bible. Every tree speaks of a specific place.

I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the ****tah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together: Isaiah.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Desert - Wilderness - Mountain
Bread - Oil - Wine
Corn - Olive - Grape

It is true. The oil tree was planted in the wilderness.

Reliance on Pure Logic makes you Blind. Reliance on Pure Logic actually makes you an Heathen Atheist. Reliance on Pure Logic to understand the Holy Scriptures/Bible means you are one of the 2.2 Billion members of the Earthly Universal Roman Catholic Church.

Logic has its uses in the study of the Holy Scriptures/Bible, although you Cannot Really understand the teachings with it.

 

[Elihoenai]

I am an Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslim, follower of the "Second Coming 1835-1908".Right?
Regards

You Practice Revivalist Islam and are waiting for a Muslim Messianic figure that will also Embody the figure expected by other Major Religions. Is this correct? If yes, are you Actively Brining in this Messianic Figure or are you Passively Waiting for this Messianic Figure?


Ahmadiyya

Ahmadiyya (/ˌɑːməˈdiːə/, also UK: /-ˈdiːjə/),[1][2][3] officially the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community[4] or the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at (AMJ,[5] Arabic: الجماعة الإسلامية الأحمدية, romanized: al-Jamāʿah al-Islāmīyah al-Aḥmadīyah; Urdu: جماعت احمدیہ مسلمہ, romanized: Jamā'at Aḥmadiyyah Muslimah), is an Islamic revival[6] or messianic[7][8] movement originating in Punjab, British India, in the late 19th century.[9][10][11] It was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908), who claimed to have been divinely appointed as both the Promised Mahdi (Guided One) and Messiah expected by Muslims to appear towards the end times and bring about, by peaceful means, the final triumph of Islam;[12] as well as to embody, in this capacity, the expected eschatological figure of other major religious traditions.[13] Adherents of the Ahmadiyya—a term adopted expressly in reference to Muhammad's alternative name Aḥmad[14][15][16][17]—are known as Ahmadi Muslims or simply Ahmadis.

Ahmadiyya - Wikipedia

 

[paarsurrey]

You Practice Revivalist Islam and are waiting for a Muslim Messianic figure that will also Embody the figure expected by other Major Religions. Is this correct? If yes, are you Actively Brining in this Messianic Figure or are you Passively Waiting for this Messianic Figure?


Ahmadiyya

Ahmadiyya (/ˌɑːməˈdiːə/, also UK: /-ˈdiːjə/),[1][2][3] officially the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community[4] or the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at (AMJ,[5] Arabic: الجماعة الإسلامية الأحمدية, romanized: al-Jamāʿah al-Islāmīyah al-Aḥmadīyah; Urdu: جماعت احمدیہ مسلمہ, romanized: Jamā'at Aḥmadiyyah Muslimah), is an Islamic revival[6] or messianic[7][8] movement originating in Punjab, British India, in the late 19th century.[9][10][11] It was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908), who claimed to have been divinely appointed as both the Promised Mahdi (Guided One) and Messiah expected by Muslims to appear towards the end times and bring about, by peaceful means, the final triumph of Islam;[12] as well as to embody, in this capacity, the expected eschatological figure of other major religious traditions.[13] Adherents of the Ahmadiyya—a term adopted expressly in reference to Muhammad's alternative name Aḥmad[14][15][16][17]—are known as Ahmadi Muslims or simply Ahmadis.

Ahmadiyya - Wikipedia

One could have more and accurate description, if one likes, please, right? @:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website

 

[Elihoenai]

One could have more and accurate description, if one likes, please, right? @:
Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website

The link is much appreciated.

How can Islam be the Pinnacle of Religious Evolution when Christian Nations are Superior to Muslim Nations? Take the Middle East (you can argue the term) for example, where Christian Nations placed Israel in the Heart of your lands and Israel Dominates the region. And don't forget that Christian Nations Invade and Loot Muslim Lands being more Powerful. Christianity is Stronger and Superior to Judaism and Islam and Judaism is Stronger and Superior to Islam. This Religious Order is Ordained by Elohim/God.


So Ahmadiyya Muslim Community want to Unite Humanity in the Latter Days. Didn't you get the Memo that Humanity has been United in their Opposition to Elohim/God for thousands of years?


Balfour Declaration

The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917.

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

 

[TrueBeliever37]

John 6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Jesus, speaking about this to His disciples said the following:

John 6:60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” 61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this? 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

Jesus is called the Word of God in John (John 1:1-3, John 1:14)
The way I understand what Jesus said about eating His flesh and drinking His blood is that if we hear Him, the words that He spoke, the Word of God from God, and believe those words and take them in and grow from them then we are eating Jesus. It is as He said, 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

The Catholic Church sees the passage as referring to the Catholic Communion where they say the bread and wine are turned into the body and blood of Jesus and that we must partake of that or we have no life in us. This is called the doctrine of transubstantiation and this was written in the Catholic Church in 1551, thus giving to the Catholic Church the power to give eternal life since they are the only ones whose priests can change the wine and bread to Jesus blood and body, or so the story goes. It is no coincidence that this doctrine was developed when the Reformation was in progress and people were leaving the RCC as they came to understand the Bible for themselves.
But of course the communion is symbolic of the last supper and the body and blood of Jesus and the New Covenant, the Passover feast being symbolic of the Mosaic Covenant.
The New Covenant is prophesied in the Old Testament and is a time when the Spirit of God is given to those who believe, thus Jesus said it is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all.

Very good Brian2. Yes, it is supposed to be Spiritual communion, not a literal eating and drinking in the kingdom of God (the church). We eat of the spiritual bread (the word of God). He gave his flesh to bring this new covenant (the word/the bread) into effect. The cup is the new covenant, dedicated with his blood. So when we drink of the new covenant cup in the way he intended, we are partakers of his blood. He pours out his Spirit and we drink of it, just like they did in Acts 2: We eat and drink spiritually.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

You are speaking like a Heathen Atheist.

But I am saying the words of the Bible are true.

Reliance on Pure Logic makes you Blind. Reliance on Pure Logic actually makes you an Heathen Atheist.

Consider this well known prophecy:

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Isaiah.

The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord. Isaiah.


I have shown the animals earlier as tribes assigned to certain gates.

So I know the words are true.


BREAD
North gates:
Cattle / Reuben
Lion / Judah
Bear / Levi

OIL
West gates:
Goat / Asher
Leopard / Gad
Deer / Naphtali

WINE
East gates:
Sheep - Joseph
Wolf - Benjamin
Horse - Dan


Logic tells me the wolf has always been with the lamb. As I know that Benjamin is with Joseph.


Benjamin = Wolf
Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil. Genesis.

Joseph = Sheep
Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock; thou that dwellest between the cherubims, shine forth. Psalm.


Benjamin and Joseph are together in the Eastern part of the city:

And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan. Ezekiel.


So the wolf is with the lamb. That is a logical explanation.

Do you know some people think the prophecy is talking about someday in the future the animals will magically become at peace with each other?

Do you think that you will see the wolf with the lamb within your lifetime?

 

[Elihoenai]

But I am saying the words of the Bible are true.




Consider this well known prophecy:

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Isaiah.

The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord. Isaiah.


I have shown the animals earlier as tribes assigned to certain gates.

So I know the words are true.


BREAD
North gates:
Cattle / Reuben
Lion / Judah
Bear / Levi

OIL
West gates:
Goat / Asher
Leopard / Gad
Deer / Naphtali

WINE
East gates:
Sheep - Joseph
Wolf - Benjamin
Horse - Dan


Logic tells me the wolf has always been with the lamb. As I know that Benjamin is with Joseph.


Benjamin = Wolf
Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil. Genesis.

Joseph = Sheep
Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock; thou that dwellest between the cherubims, shine forth. Psalm.


Benjamin and Joseph are together in the Eastern part of the city:

And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan. Ezekiel.


So the wolf is with the lamb. That is a logical explanation.

Do you know some people think the prophecy is talking about someday in the future the animals will magically become at peace with each other?

Do you think that you will see the wolf with the lamb within your lifetime?

@WonderingWorrier Yet you have not answered the Critical Questions posed to you.

These Questions:
Do you believe in Elohim/God? Do you believe that the Devil/Satan Exist?

There are 2.2 Billion Christian in Christendom that say the words of the Holy Scriptures/Bible is True and they all have different in Interpretations of that Truth.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

These Questions:
Do you believe in Elohim/God? Do you believe that the Devil/Satan Exist?

Yes I do believe in God. Yes I do believe the Devil/Satan exists.

I know the serpent is eating dust as said in the prophecy about the wolf with the lamb, and the lion eating straw with the Ox.

The serpent of Eden.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Straw - Dust - Stubble
Desert - Wilderness - Mountain.

Jesus went there. The wilderness.

And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him. Mark.


It is the place of the fig tree. The figs are as stars.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Brass - Silver - Gold
Pomegranate - Fig - Apple
Desert - Wilderness - Mountain
Moon - Star - Sun

And it seems those that touch the mountain all speak as mountain. They become as Gods.

But Adam and Eve were told not to eat the golden apple.


So a question could be:
Should the mountains go into the sea, as Jesus mentioned?

Level3 down to level1.

Level1 - Level2 - Level3
Brass - Silver - Gold
Valley - Hill - Mountain
Sea - River - Stream

 

[paarsurrey]

@WonderingWorrier Yet you have not answered the Critical Questions posed to you.

These Questions:
Do you believe in Elohim/God? Do you believe that the Devil/Satan Exist?

There are 2.2 Billion Christian in Christendom that say the words of the Holy Scriptures/Bible is True and they all have different in Interpretations of that Truth.

" 2.2 Billion "

A wrong remains wrong even if 2.2 Billion or its double or even more adhere to it, please. Right?
Hellenist Pauline Christendom was wrong from the day one it started from a fake " vision ", one gets to know, please, right?

Regards

 

[Elihoenai]

Yes I do believe in God. Yes I do believe the Devil/Satan exists.

I know the serpent is eating dust as said in the prophecy about the wolf with the lamb, and the lion eating straw with the Ox.

The serpent of Eden.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Straw - Dust - Stubble
Desert - Wilderness - Mountain.

Jesus went there. The wilderness.

And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him. Mark.


It is the place of the fig tree. The figs are as stars.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Brass - Silver - Gold
Pomegranate - Fig - Apple
Desert - Wilderness - Mountain
Moon - Star - Sun

And it seems those that touch the mountain all speak as mountain. They become as Gods.

But Adam and Eve were told not to eat the golden apple.


So a question could be:
Should the mountains go into the sea, as Jesus mentioned?

Level3 down to level1.

Level1 - Level2 - Level3
Brass - Silver - Gold
Valley - Hill - Mountain
Sea - River - Stream

1 John 3:8

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


Therefore, do you understand that you are a Child of the Devil/Satan? Do you recognise that the Devil/Satan has snatched away Salvation and its meaning from you? To what purpose is the study of the Holy Scriptures/Bible to yourself, given you are Not Saved and don't know what Salvation is?

Every person on the Planet of 7.9 Billion people, apart from a Few hundred/thousand Elect, are Children of the Devil/Satan because of Adam's Inheritance.

 

[Elihoenai]

" 2.2 Billion "

A wrong remains wrong even if 2.2 Billion or its double or even more adhere to it, please. Right?
Hellenist Pauline Christendom was wrong from the day one it started from a fake " vision ", one gets to know, please, right?

Regards

It's impossible for a Muslim to understand the Holy Scriptures/Bible, especially when considering that 2.2 Billion of Christians in Christendom do Not Really understand the Holy Scriptures/Bible.

In the same way, I cannot pretend to be an expert on the Koran/Quran because I Am Not a Muslim.

 

[WonderingWorrier]

1 John 3:8

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


Therefore, do you understand that you are a Child of the Devil/Satan? Do you recognise that the Devil/Satan has snatched away Salvation and its meaning from you? To what purpose is the study of the Holy Scriptures/Bible to yourself, given you are Not Saved and don't know what Salvation is?

Every person on the Planet of 7.9 Billion people, apart from a Few hundred/thousand Elect, are Children of the Devil/Satan because of Adam's Inheritance.

No I do not understand your line of thought.

Are you saying that you are also a child of the Devil/Satan?
Or are you saying that I am but you are not.



Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:4


If sin is transgression of the law, then the removal of sin is the removal of the transgression.



Do you think people can hear the law in the bible?

Like laws about cattle. Is it because God cares about cattle?


It asks that question in Corinthians.

For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? Corinthians.


There are no cattle in the laws of the bible. It is a symbol according to the law.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Corn - Olive - Grape
Bread - Oil - Wine
Cattle - Goat - Sheep

The Ox is in the Corn. The place of Bread.

 

[Elihoenai]

No I do not understand your line of thought.

Are you saying that you are also a child of the Devil/Satan?
Or are you saying that I am but you are not.



Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:4


If sin is transgression of the law, then the removal of sin is the removal of the transgression.



Do you think people can hear the law in the bible?

Like laws about cattle. Is it because God cares about cattle?


It asks that question in Corinthians.

For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? Corinthians.


There are no cattle in the laws of the bible. It is a symbol according to the law.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Corn - Olive - Grape
Bread - Oil - Wine
Cattle - Goat - Sheep

The Ox is in the Corn. The place of Bread.

1 John 4:1

4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


You don't understand my line of thought because, apparently, you don't understand anything that you are reading or writing in the Holy Scriptures/Bible.


Do you think any member from the 2.2 of Christians in Christendom will listen to a person that is Not Saved and Will Perish and doesn't know what Salvations is? I don't think you are that Ignorant. This appears to be Lying Ignorance and you, @WonderingWorrier, are Inverted Cross Practitioner Mocking Elohim/God. Elohim/God has Ordained the Mockers Against Elohim/God.


Are there any members on these Forums that believe a person studying the Holy Scriptures/Bible can be this Ignorant about the Christian Faith?


I'm Child of the Satan/Devil Transitioning from 7.9 Billion Children of the Devil/Satan to the True Elohim/God. I Am Transitioning to the Few hundred/thousand Elect Practising Sinless Perfection.

 

[paarsurrey]

1 John 4:1

4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


You don't understand my line of thought because, apparently, you don't understand anything that you are reading or writing in the Holy Scriptures/Bible.


Do you think any member from the 2.2 of Christians in Christendom will listen to a person that is Not Saved and Will Perish and doesn't know what Salvations is? I don't think you are that Ignorant. This appears to be Lying Ignorance and you, @WonderingWorrier, are Inverted Cross Practitioner Mocking Elohim/God. Elohim/God has Ordained the Mockers Against Elohim/God.


Are there any members on these Forums that believe a person studying the Holy Scriptures/Bible can be this Ignorant about the Christian Faith?


I'm Child of the Satan/Devil Transitioning from 7.9 Billion Children of the Devil/Satan to the True Elohim/God. I Am Transitioning to the Few hundred/thousand Elect Practising Sinless Perfection.

" 1 John 4:1 "

" 1 John 4:1" is not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah:

The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.

Right?

Regards

 

[Elihoenai]

" 1 John 4:1 "

" 1 John 4:1" is not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah:

The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.

Right?

Regards

Matthew 16:13

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?


If you want to go further as a Muslim to Discredit the Holy Scriptures/Bible, you could say that the Letters that are in Red are Fabricated by the Universal Roman Catholic Church and Not Really the Words of Yeshua/Jesus.


The Universal Roman Catholic Church Bans the Possession and Reading of the Holy Scriptures/Bible. The Universal Roman Catholic Church Tortures and Murders those in Possession of Holy Scriptures/Bible, those Studying the Holy Scriptures/Bible and those with a different Interpretation of the Holy Scriptures/Bible.



Censorship of the Bible

Censorship of the Bible includes restrictions and prohibition of possessing, reading, or using the Bible in general or any particular translation of it. Violators of those Bible prohibitions have been punished by killing, imprisonment, forced labor, and banishment, as well as by burning or confiscating the Bible or Bibles used or distributed. Censorship of the Bible occurred in the past and is still going on today.

In the 20th century, Christian resistance to the Soviet Union's policy of state atheism occurred through Bible-smuggling.[1] The People's Republic of China, officially an atheist state, engages in Bible burning as a part of antireligious campaigns there.[2][3]

The Index Librorum Prohibitorum[a] of the Catholic Church included various translations of the Bible. In most cases, the bans on pious lay people possessing or using Bibles were related to vernacular Bible editions. Clerics were never forbidden to possess the Vulgate Bible translation in the Latin language. From the point of view of most Protestants, the topic mostly refers to historical prohibitions of the Catholic Church against reading or possessing Bibles, not of the Latin Vulgate translation, or in the case of the laity, possessing any Bibles at all, including the Vulgate. From a Catholic point of view, the censorship of the Bible was done both by restricting Bibles from those lacking instruction and by censoring translations thought to encourage deviations from official Catholic doctrines.

Censorship of the Bible - Wikipedia.



To be Absolutely Certain what Words are Yehsua's/Jesus's you Must Know Who Yeshua/Jesus is. Only a Few hundred/thousand Elect out of 7.9 Billion Really Know Who Yeshua/Jesus is.

Yeshua/Jesus asked his Disciples this All-Important Question:

WHOM DO MEN SAY THAT I THE SON OF MAN AM ?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Yeshua/Jesus asked his Disciples this All-Important Question:

WHOM DO MEN SAY THAT I THE SON OF MAN AM ?

Peter answered the question and the Answer is Christ (Annointed One).

On that answer, that Jesus was Christ, Jesus said the Church will be built.

Regards Tony

 

[WonderingWorrier]

1 John 4:1

4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


You don't understand my line of thought because, apparently, you don't understand anything that you are reading or writing in the Holy Scriptures/Bible.

I'm not a prophet/messenger. I am a listener.


Do you think that you are saved.

There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? James.



You are right. I do not know what it means to be saved.

All I hear is judgement. Every word of God is judgement.

Thats how I know who speaks the word of God and who does not.



I know every keyword is a symbol that has a specific place according to the law of judgement.

Thats how prophets talk. Stacking and weaving symbols into positions of judgement.

It sounds like crazy talk but they are saying something.


To know the words of the prophets is to know the ways of war. The spear, the sword, and the bow.
To know the words of the prophets is to know the ways of the moon, the stars, and the sun.


This is how prophets talk. Weaving layers of symbols into specific positions.


This is weaving of symbols:

The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear. Habakkuk.


They are very specific and accurate in what they say.

Group1 - Group2 - Group3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Moon - Star - Sun
Spear - Sword - Bow


This is the layering of the two layers that were woven together.

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Luke


Therefore set I in the lower places behind the wall, and on the higher places, I even set the people after their families with their swords, their spears, and their bows. Nehemiah.




I know Jesus speaks of peace. As peace is the way of the sword. The middle way.

To break the bow and cut the spear.

He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. Psalm.

To bring down the high and to lift up the low.

Level1 - Level2 - Level3
Bread - Oil - Wine
Moon - Star - Sun
Spear - Sword - Bow


The peace of Jesus is the sword of Jesus. It saves and destroys.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew


Jesus says:
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. John.