Thank you Tulsi

[ImmortalFlame]

I give you a practical example.
European Commission is not elected by the people. It is indirectly elected by the European Parliament.
But it is not a real election, because in real elections, anyone can be a candidate.

In that election, the members are considered eligible by an elitist group. So the EP will elect the commissioners from a list.
If that's not elitist, what is it?

But what if the people appointed don't see themselves as above other people, don't consider themselves elite, and don't use the position to enrich themselves?

 

[Estro Felino]

But what if the people appointed don't see themselves as above other people, don't consider themselves elite, and don't use the position to enrich themselves?

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Is it normal that the European Commission members need to be chosen from a list written by elitist groups present in 27 countries?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. Is it normal that the European Commission members need to be chosen from a list written by elitist groups present in 27 countries?

You've not answered my question. Again, you set up the criteria of what qualifies as an elite. I am asking you what if a person chosen from a list to become a member of the EC simply doesn't fit those criteria? Are they then not an elite?

 

[Estro Felino]

You've not answered my question. Again, you set up the criteria of what qualifies as an elite. I am asking you what if a person chosen from a list to become a member of the EC simply doesn't fit those criteria? Are they then not an elite?

I have said it is the elites that write that list. But it doesn't imply those on the list are all elitists.

 

[InChrist]

What elites control it and why do you ignore the elites running the Republican party?

Tulsi is one of the few courageous, independent thinking ones. Most of the Democrats AND Republicans are sold out to the military industrial complex.

 

[InChrist]

Yes, there is.
And I would like to find out if there is conflict of interest between the Democratic Party and the big weaponry industry.
A sector that gains billions from the sale of weaponry, during world wars.

Here is a quote with a linked in-depth article, if you’re interested ..,

Monopolistic control is critical to maintaining the enormous profit margins and unprecedented wealth of the oligarchical class. Now elite corporations can operate with virtual impunity. Rather than a competitive economy, we are seeing the emergence of what Aldous Huxley called “a scientific caste system,” where the highly credentialed and technologically dominant have almost total reign.32Tech oligarchs, notes the French socialist economist Thomas Piketty, see themselves not merely as business people but as exemplars whose success serves to “destroy artificial inequalities” while “highlighting natural inequalities.”33The new aristocracy regards itself as intrinsically more deserving of their wealth and power than the old managerial elites or the grubby corporate speculators.34 They believe that they are not just creating value but building a better world. These are not just the rich and well-placed but also the elect.

The Rise of Corporate-State Tyranny - The American Way of Life

 

[tytlyf]

Tulsi is one of the few courageous, independent thinking ones. Most of the Democrats AND Republicans are sold out to the military industrial complex.

BS. Tulsi is an opportunist and grifter.
BTW, the MIC is heavily in the Republican party pockets.
Republicans are much more hawkish than Democrats.

 

[InChrist]

BS. Tulsi is an opportunist and grifter.
BTW, the MIC is heavily in the Republican party pockets.
Republicans are much more hawkish than Democrats.

I sincerely don’t know how you can say Tulsi is an opportunist. To stand against the war machine is not to one’s advantage. Republicans are, for the most part, war mongers, but the Dems are definitely heavily bought off now by the MIC.

 

[tytlyf]

I sincerely don’t know how you can say Tulsi is an opportunist.

She didn't run for re-election in 2020 because she would be kicked to the curb. Finding a new opportunist grift by catering to the right allows her to find a new means of making money.

To stand against the war machine is not to one’s advantage.

She's not standing against the MIC.

Republicans are, for the most part, war mongers, but the Dems are definitely heavily bought off now by the MIC.

According to who? Republicans have always been in the pockets of MIC and that hasn't changed.

Here's Raytheon as an example
PAC Profile: Raytheon Technologies

 

[Estro Felino]

She didn't run for re-election in 2020 because she would be kicked to the curb. Finding a new opportunist grift by catering to the right allows her to find a new means of making money.

She's not standing against the MIC.

According to who? Republicans have always been in the pockets of MIC and that hasn't changed.

Here's Raytheon as an example
PAC Profile: Raytheon Technologies

I think spirituality plays an important role in the personal choices of a politician.

For example...I would like to know the relationship that Hillary Clinton has with spirituality.
It would be very interesting.
Also to give the American People an idea of the reasons why certain decisions were taken both by Biden and Obama-Hillary as for the military policies of the United States.

 

[Estro Felino]

BS. Tulsi is an opportunist and grifter.
BTW, the MIC is heavily in the Republican party pockets.
Republicans are much more hawkish than Democrats.

On the contrary, a person like Hillary who still uses the surname of the person who cheated on her....to run for president...is...?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

On the contrary, a person like Hillary who still uses the surname of the person who cheated on her....to run for president...is...?

They are both humans. Start there. And try to understand them as individual humans.

 

[Estro Felino]

They are both humans. Start there. And try to understand them as individual humans.

This thread is about the reason why Tulsi Gabbard left a party where Clinton and the likes play a significant role.
And I want dem voters to acknowledge that during the Obama administration, terrible, irreparable and unforgivable mistakes were made, as for the management of the US military policies.
Policies which resulted in nothing but disruption and turmoil.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

This thread is about the reason why Tulsi Gabbard left a party where Clinton and the likes play a significant role.
And I want dem voters to acknowledge that during the Obama administration, terrible, irreparable and unforgivable mistakes were made, as for the management of the US military policies.
Policies which resulted in nothing but disruption and turmoil.

Yeah, that happens sometimes in the world but never some place else, you know what I am talking about. We all get that and some of the other people than your people disagree.

 

[tytlyf]

On the contrary, a person like Hillary who still uses the surname of the person who cheated on her....to run for president...is...?

Isn't that surname the person who is married to her?
Does it bother you that Trump cheated on Melania when she was pregnant with a nasty porn star?
Paying the porn star off and lying about it?

 

[InChrist]

Republicans have always been in the pockets of MIC and that hasn't changed.

Here's Raytheon as an example
PAC Profile: Raytheon Technologies

I’m not going to argue with you about Republicans being in the pockets of the MIC because, as I said, for the most part they are. Just saying, the Democrats are, too.

Representatives are Too Invested in Defense Contractors

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc.../10/democrats-ignore-trump-s-real-violations/

 

[Estro Felino]

Isn't that surname the person who is married to her?
Does it bother you that Trump cheated on Melania when she was pregnant with a nasty porn star?
Paying the porn star off and lying about it?

Honestly I couldn't care less about a president's sex life.

I had asked you the question about Hillary Clinton's spirituality, and democrat politicians' spirituality in general.
May I receive an answer? Thank you in advance.

 

[tytlyf]

Honestly I couldn't care less about a president's sex life.

I had asked you the question about Hillary Clinton's spirituality, and democrat politicians' spirituality in general.
May I receive an answer? Thank you in advance.

I'd say the majority of Democrats are Christian.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I have said it is the elites that write that list. But it doesn't imply those on the list are all elitists.

Exactly. So, since you have no means by which to determine genuinely who the elites are, maybe you should just judge people individually according to their beliefs and actions, rather than using a vague label that you cannot reasonably apply to anyone without extensive personal experience.

 

[Estro Felino]

Exactly. So, since you have no means by which to determine genuinely who the elites are, maybe you should just judge people individually according to their beliefs and actions, rather than using a vague label that you cannot reasonably apply to anyone without extensive personal experience.

I know their name and surname...so I do know who these élites are.