Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Another idiotic woke push to put their politics into cartoons.
Nothing is sacred anymore.
Maybe Shaggy is into beastality with Scooby-Doo too.
Ratts right Raggy!
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Scooby-Doo's Velma offically a lesbian
- Thread starter Father Heathen
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Nothing is sacred anymore.
Maybe Shaggy is into beastality with Scooby-Doo too.
Ratts right Raggy!
I prefer the brand of wokeness in The Venture Brothers.
Sergeant Hatred takes drugs to curb his pedophilia.
Being gay is meh....it's everywhere....it's the new normal.
Interestingly, that's pretty much how I feel about it, too.
I will say, however, that I knew a lot of people from of my vintage who would really have benefitted from having gay characters as a part (a small part, as we ain't a majority and ain't gonna be) of the cast of characters in books, TV and movies. In both the heroic, anti-heroic, and supporting roles. Kids do learn -- even while being entertained. And I think that's a good thing.
Which I can still never quite figure out. I haven't been a gay bar or club or other venue in over a decade and a half. I enjoy my neighbourhood pub, where on a really busy night there may well be another gay person or 2 present, besides myself. And we don't stand out because we don't want to -- we're not looking to do anything except enjoy time with friends and neighbours.
Right now, I'm cheering along with a bar full of people while our Toronto Blue Jays are in their opening game of a wild-card series against the Seattle Mariners. And nobody is worrying about whether the other people in the room sleep with girls, boys, or cleverly designed toys.
1. I don't believe representation matters. I believe in casting whoever's best and what works for the show.
2. Children don't need a frame of reference for sexuality. They're children.
3. It has actually led to decreased tolerance for the first time in decades over being pushed so hard.
4. If children are having a hard time over this, for whatever reason, that's for parents and teachers to address, not TV.
5. Gender and sexuality are not topics to be discussing with small children. I didn't ever need any explanation at all. I grew up, I realised I had sexual attractions, the end.
6. Who's real life should television mirror? Mine? I grew up in a 99% white village with 300 or so people and about 1 gay couple.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
How is gay people existing "political"? It's political to pretend that they don't.
Do you consider minority or female leads or interracial couples in movies or television shows to be "political" as well?
If I recall correctly, you're not a religious person. So then what's your issue with LGBT people if you're not tethered by irrational superstitions?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Make their own shows then. Leave the classics alone.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It has always been around, it's just that modern society tends to be more enlightened. Religious fundamentalism doesn't have the chokehold it once did on culture and society.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's political when they just must shovel their crap into other people's classic creations.
We Never Know
No Slack
"Television should mirror real life"
When I read that one I thought bye-bye starwars, star trek, superman, spiderman, wolverine, little mermaid, etc
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
So ought we then remove all heterosexual relationship dynamics from kid's stuff? Barbie and Ken aren't dating, they're just good friends? No depictions of weddings? No parents?
We Never Know
No Slack
"If I recall correctly, you're not a religious person. So then what's your issue with LGBT people if you're not tethered by irrational superstitions"
Maybe its not just religious people.
I don't believe so. It's not being pushed and put onto formerly homosexual characters, I gather.
The issue is why they're doing this. No-one here, presumably, cares if characters just happen to be homosexual - we care that they're taking old shows and putting these facades on them for clearly political aims, and aimed at children. They're coming from an ideology not organic characterisation.
It's not that these characters just happen to be gay, it's that their whole shtick is being gay.
Yeah, seems gratuitous to make a point of one character's sexual orientation when the orientation of the other characters is left unaddressed.She is a character in a cartoon aimed at kids like 10 and under. It's completely irrelevent.
Next up.... Rule 34
I don't think the others sexualities are unaddressed, but ultimately assumed through their other interactions.
Yeah but let's be honest here : who here didn't already assume that Thelma was a lesbian?
*Edit: anyway, what interactions specifically?
Velma has resonated with lesbians for decades, at this point this is more like a formality than a statement. She's never has a relationship or mentioned her preferencr before so it's not a change. Heterosexual isn't and shouldn't be the assumption unless proven otherwise.
Also I don't gaf if parents don't want their children to see gay people on TV. Americans and Europeans have been censoring out gay couples from TV since the 80's, and never once held 'preserving the original!' in high esteem until the original didn't have things they didn't like.
Sailor Moon had multiple gay couples, and it was a show aimed at 8 year old girls. But even Japanese people weren't so obnoxiously prudish as to care. But boy American and EU censors did.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
So heterosexuality remains the default unless told otherwise?