Homosexuality and religious.

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, it was an opinion based upon my beliefs.

No, you state how as a fact other people suffer. Your opinion doesn't decide if another person suffers or how. Yet you judge how other humans suffer.

 

[Trailblazer]

What? You still hold the opinion that black people are inferior to white people? And that women shouldn't be allowed to vote?
Yikes!

She never said that.

 

[Trailblazer]

they do it so people like you can learn to mind their own business.

Maybe so, but obviously it hasn't worked.

 

[Sheldon]

No, I am not, because I do not have prejudice against gay people..

I do not believe that homosexuals are inferior,

Trailblazer said: ↑
I believe that homosexuality is a sexual aberration that is against nature

 

[Trailblazer]

It doesn't. Fact.

Prove it.

 

[Trailblazer]

So why does he create people as homosexuals?

He doesn't.

 

[Sheldon]

I am not intolerant or prejudice against homosexuals.

Trailblazer said: ↑
I believe that homosexuality is a sexual aberration that is against nature

 

[Sheldon]

Bree said: ↑
Homosexuality is not good for us emotionally and spiritually.

I could not have said that better myself.

Trailblazer said: ↑
I am not intolerant or prejudice against homosexuals.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yeah, that is your universal claim. I learned to do God differently than you. Yet you decide for us all, which God there is.

That is not a universal claim. It is just a statement of what he believes (what he has ascertained).

My argument is I have ascertained that Baha’u’llah is a Manifestation of God so He speaks the truth regardless of whether people like it or not.

 

[Sheldon]

Im sorry i am no mislead by that twisted logic.

God has given a man and a woman the ability to have a child together. Every child deserves to know its mother and father. Breeding children in testtubes and injecting them into foreign bodies was never intended to be a good way for any human to be brought into the world.

I though you believed your deity wanted us to have free will?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, it was an opinion based upon my beliefs.

Take #2. You are the kind of human, that is dangerous to other humans, because you judge other humans behavior as if your own is the universal standard. And yet you deny it, because it is just an opinion.
To understand what cause suffering in another humans, you in some cases must accept that they are different than you. But you didn't in this case. You took your opinion to be universal.

 

[Sheldon]

do you not think that homosexuality harms people?

I know it doesn't, this is just homophobic lies religions spread. It's the bigotry and prejudice of religious homophobia that harms gay people.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That is not a universal claim. It is just a statement of what he believes (what he has ascertained).

My argument is I have ascertained that Baha’u’llah is a Manifestation of God so He speaks the truth regardless of whether people like it or not.

We are talking about what can cause suffering in homosexual humans. Not your opinion about God!!!

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No I do not. I don’t judge others God does. I’m just an ordinary person.

That is your opinion that God judges other people. So it might not be a fact . That is how you judge other humans. You claim God does.

 

[Sheldon]

there is the problem right there.

Its the use of the word 'homophobic'

I dont think anyone is scared of homosexuals. No one has a fear of homosexual people. To label everyone who has the opinion that same gender sex is not good as 'homophobic' is not really accurate. Its just a bullying tactic designed to shut people up.

Do you think dishonestly misrepresenting the definition will go unnoticed?

adjective

1. having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.

 

[Trailblazer]

it's unjust to require gay Baha'i men to be celibate

Is it also unjust to require heterosexual men and women to abstain from sex unless they are married?
That is the Baha'i Law.

 

[Sheldon]

Justice cannot allow the innocent to be victimised

Unless they're gay apparently. Homophobic bigotry is not my notion of justice.

 

[Sheldon]

Jesus warns that one who condemns others will themselves be condemned.

And you just condemned gay people as a sexual aberration.

 

[dybmh]

Is it also unjust to require heterosexual men and women to abstain from sex unless they are married?
That is the Baha'i Law.

In theory, hetrosexual Baha'i have the opportunity to have sex per their sexual preference. Gay Baha'i do not. That is why it is unjust towards Gay Baha'i; they don't have the same opportunity that Straight Baha'i have.

 

[Sheldon]

Bree said: ↑
so is it 'homosexuality' or is it 'gay people'?

because the two are entirely different.

Indeed they are.

Gay
adjective

1. (of a person) homosexual (used especially of a man).

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