Subduction Zone
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People can always be wrong about the God that they worship.
By the way, that is a hint.
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Shroud of Turin is from first AD.
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By the way, that is a hint.
Sheldon
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Well it's your choice, it wasn't me who made the suggestion, but the suggestion nonetheless was offered to help you avoid that, you may do as you are minded. I don't believe in any deity, so I don't believe Jesus if he existed was anything but human, and I don't believe in Satan, so preaching your beliefs at me is utterly pointless.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
That indicate that other Gods can exist, but one only follow one God at the time. (My understanding)
Sheldon
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What have the numbers to do with anything, an argument is either sound and well reasoned or it is not, the number of people making it has no relevance. Besides I count more theists than atheists anyway?
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Subduction Zone
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There are polytheists out there.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I see no evidence the bible is relevant to your claim, and the earth is quite literally doomed of course, as our sun like all stars have a finite lifespan, and ours will end in approximately 3.5 billion years, either collapsing into a red dwarf, or exploding into a supernova. Our planet's atmosphere will go long before that, though humans will likely not be around to see it of course.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes thats no problem for me
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes. I plan on moving by then.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Are you implying anyone who doesn't share your belief on here is possessed by a demon? A rather obvious no true Scotsman fallacy. You also failed to demonstrate a shred of objective evidence that what you perceive as a possession is real, instead imploring me to watch the display your church puts on, as if this would remotely evidence your conclusions about what was happening, and you ignored the evidence I presented about mass and group hysteria, and how it explained such behaviours as a natural phenomenon.
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Allah is a four-letter word for God in Arabic
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Evidence is of the Devil!!
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yep, different languages same god. But then many Christians do not understand that Yahweh and Jehovah are essentially the same word.
What standard determines who God shows itself to those that deserve it? In consideration of what would a universal all-powerful God or God(s) could any human presume to even make such a statement?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Dancing plagues and mass hysteria.
Mass hysteria, also known as mass psychogenic illness (MPI), is characterised by more than one person spontaneously developing hysterical physical and emotional symptoms, manifested out of false or exaggerated beliefs within their group. It appears to be a phenomenon not restricted to one religion or deity, rather tellingly.
Witchcraft or Mental Illness?
The Role of Psychological Distress and Social Contagion in
Demonic Possession in Early Modern England
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Very good, made me laugh that.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Personally I do not have a clear answer to that
ElishaElijah
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No, in my view there is a difference between being possessed and influenced.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
They are all probably merely "influenced". Why believe that any of them were attacked by magical creatures?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Yes it's another of those handy ad hoc rationalisations apologists resort to, without seeing the irony of needing such handwaving to defend a belief.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Care to explain and then evidence your assumption that people who don't share your beliefs are being "influenced" by demons? As I said, it seems a pretty obvious no true Scotsman fallacy to me. At best its post ad hoc rationalisation, that is as yet unsupported by any objective evidence, not that this is too much of a surprise of course.