Still love your guns, America? Fourteen elementary kids and teacher killed in Texas

[Truth in love]

Look into your Constitution, including Amendments. There is no inalienable right to life. It is in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence but that isn't law. That means your government (e.g. a court) can decide to kill you and it would be legal.

It would only be legal after due process which would include an investigation, grand jury, court with a jury of my peers and my being convicted.

 

[Truth in love]

Good gun laws help keep the guns away from the bad guys. Ask any developed country outside the US.

Well let’s looks Mexico? Nope lots of bad guys with guns running drugs and sex slaves.

China with the concentration camps for Muslims? Nope.

Maybe it’s England where they we’re running public complains to get people to turn in their sharp kitchen knives? Gunna have to say no to that one too.


Now there are nations that are a lot more stable and less prom to random violence than the US. I’m all for that. But I won’t be safer by not having a guns.

 

[Truth in love]

Thanks. As for those two areas, being a ginger I'm more worried about the sun than the local wildlife.

Why not work on making society more safe to where you don't have to worry about that?

I do everyday. I work with people with mental illness to help them develop safe coping skills. I’m raising my kids to try to help them be good people who heal not hurt. At times I’ve volunteered with various non profits like the Boy Scouts and Salvation Army.


I keep advocating for peaceful, lawful solutions to many of our problems.
Not being petty dictator I can’t enact laws. All I can do is try to help people learn and do better.


Side note Aux has 7-8 of the deadliest snakes, spiders and pretty much everything else. It workable, but it can be tricky.

 

[Truth in love]

Yes, they do. Have licenses, have background checks without loopholes, have safe storage laws and the bad guys will have much more difficulties to gain access to a gun than a law abiding citizen.
Without that you just ask for the bad guys to walk into Walmart and get an AR-15.

The only loop hole left if that I can give my property to someone else. A state tried to “fix this” but it made it illegal to hand a gun to anyone without a background check being done which kills hunter safety and logic.


I don’t think Walmart carries AR’s and any store has to run the gun via a FFL. (Exceptions for nerf and pellet guns).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I do everyday. I work with people with mental illness to help them develop safe coping skills. I’m raising my kids to try to help them be good people who heal not hurt. At times I’ve volunteered with various non profits like the Boy Scouts and Salvation Army.

That's cool. I was in mental health but it just doesn't pay enough (I made $13/hour in Indiana and would be lucky to get $20/hour here) to deal with everybody else's stuff along with managing my own symptoms and issues so I'm switching to physical health where I can make about the same without being on call and work can be left entirely at work (may have just been where I worked, but paperwork was sent to us on weekends so we still had to check and reply to emails). Now I'm going to go stab people and harvest their precious bodily fluids and step into a lab role from there.
And though I'm professional enough to keep this underneath, I have to admit, the idea of drawing from a child frightened of needles makes me think Halloween has come early!

 

[Truth in love]

So, you believe Jesus was wrong. Got it.

Never said that. It seems to be a go to of your anytime anyone has a different view from you. Just a thought you are not the Savior.

 

[Truth in love]

That's cool. I was in mental health but it just doesn't pay enough (I made $13/hour in Indiana and would be lucky to get $20/hour here) to deal with everybody else's stuff along with managing my own symptoms and issues so I'm switching to physical health where I can make about the same without being on call and work can be left entirely at work (may have just been where I worked, but paperwork was sent to us on weekends so we still had to check and reply to emails). Now I'm going to go stab people and harvest their precious bodily fluids and step into a lab role from there.
And though I'm professional enough to keep this underneath, I have to admit, the idea of drawing from a child frightened of needles makes me think Halloween has come early!

So odd twist of fate I had job in physical therapy many years ago. It was my intro into working with mentally ill folks.

Burn out is a major issue. I think 5-10% of it is clients. Most of it is over the top paper work requirements, wacky rules and hoop jumping.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Burn out is a major issue. I think 5-10% of it is clients. Most of it is over the top paper work requirements, wacky rules and hoop jumping.

I did realize if a patient is complaining of feeling bloated and having abominable pains and a rumble belly, you can't tell them to fart if there is nothing about the belly in the treatment plan, BUT by having a client deal directly with a major life obstacle by having it removed to reduce stress and anxiety in the client's life while improving tranquility and peace at home while coaching and assisting the client in accomplishing these goals, make it as vaguely detailed as possible, and insurance will approve killing the client's unruly neighbor.
And I suspect your numbers are probably right. I liked my clients, and I enjoyed working with many of them. But the office environment was toxic, highly stigmatizing towards mental health, very judgemental, official paperwork on the weekend when we have no more hours left to work in the week, the paperwork was endless, the rules set in regards to what you can do with whatever degrees and whatever with insurance is infuriating. I made a note of a child services child once who I was sure under the influence of heroine (her drug of choice and what got her in that situation), I made a note of it, didn't even say it was heroine, didn't even say it was a drug, but I am supposed to make note of suspected intoxicated and I noted the client appeared to be under the influence of a central nervous system depressant and gave my reasons. I got a slap on the wrist and a lecture about how "I'm not at an appropriate level" to make that call. Never mind the fact I knew more enough about drugs to piece together stuff with another client who had a meth problem and why this one drug test with a super high number was very unlikely a false result but more suggestive of using a large dose a few hours before the visitation. That got doing recovery coaching with drugs. But I "wasn't at that level" to make the vaguest and most generalized statement about a client possibly being on a drug.

 

[Heyo]

It would only be legal after due process which would include an investigation, grand jury, court with a jury of my peers and my being convicted.

Yep, but it could happen. Civilised countries have the Right to Life in their constitution. Why don't you? The Founding Fathers clearly had the intention to have it but 246 years later it still isn't implemented. And you have a vocal "pro life" movement. One would think they'd push life as a constitutional right.

 

[Heyo]

The only loop hole left if that I can give my property to someone else. A state tried to “fix this” but it made it illegal to hand a gun to anyone without a background check being done which kills hunter safety and logic.


I don’t think Walmart carries AR’s and any store has to run the gun via a FFL. (Exceptions for nerf and pellet guns).

And even so, the bad guys in your country are all armed. Something, somewhere must have gone wrong. Or it all went the way it was planned to be. After all, the best advertisement for selling guns to good guys is bad guys running around with guns.

 

[Truth in love]

I did realize if a patient is complaining of feeling bloated and having abominable pains and a rumble belly, you can't tell them to fart if there is nothing about the belly in the treatment plan, BUT by having a client deal directly with a major life obstacle by having it removed to reduce stress and anxiety in the client's life while improving tranquility and peace at home while coaching and assisting the client in accomplishing these goals, make it as vaguely detailed as possible, and insurance will approve killing the client's unruly neighbor.
And I suspect your numbers are probably right. I liked my clients, and I enjoyed working with many of them. But the office environment was toxic, highly stigmatizing towards mental health, very judgemental, official paperwork on the weekend when we have no more hours left to work in the week, the paperwork was endless, the rules set in regards to what you can do with whatever degrees and whatever with insurance is infuriating. I made a note of a child services child once who I was sure under the influence of heroine (her drug of choice and what got her in that situation), I made a note of it, didn't even say it was heroine, didn't even say it was a drug, but I am supposed to make note of suspected intoxicated and I noted the client appeared to be under the influence of a central nervous system depressant and gave my reasons. I got a slap on the wrist and a lecture about how "I'm not at an appropriate level" to make that call. Never mind the fact I knew more enough about drugs to piece together stuff with another client who had a meth problem and why this one drug test with a super high number was very unlikely a false result but more suggestive of using a large dose a few hours before the visitation. That got doing recovery coaching with drugs. But I "wasn't at that level" to make the vaguest and most generalized statement about a client possibly being on a drug.

Yea the system is not built well. I recall years ago doing a great job writing very precise objectives like “client will rate their anxiety at a 5 or lower 6 or more days a week for 1 month.”

Not allowed too confusing for the auditors.
Same company also told me I had to use psycho babble returner than plain terms. The psycho babble was almost always out of reach of the client. Some I had to dumb down for the professionals and not for the clients.

 

[Truth in love]

And even so, the bad guys in your country are all armed. Something, somewhere must have gone wrong. Or it all went the way it was planned to be. After all, the best advertisement for selling guns to good guys is bad guys running around with guns.

Its hard to be sure how much is dumb vs evil, but things are pretty messed up in many areas.

 

[Truth in love]

Yep, but it could happen. Civilised countries have the Right to Life in their constitution. Why don't you? The Founding Fathers clearly had the intention to have it but 246 years later it still isn't implemented. And you have a vocal "pro life" movement. One would think they'd push life as a constitutional right.

Constitutional amendments are nearly impossible in the current political climate. We have riots, death threats and a lot of vandalism over the rumor that the states will set abortion laws. A right to life amendment would effect end nearly all abortion in the country and spark a civil war.

 

[Heyo]

Constitutional amendments are nearly impossible in the current political climate. We have riots, death threats and a lot of vandalism over the rumor that the states will set abortion laws. A right to life amendment would effect end nearly all abortion in the country and spark a civil war.

At first it would end all death sentences.

(And it wouldn't touch abortions as human rights are only granted to persons. Granting personhood to foetuses would have to be done in a next step.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

You forget American Exceptionalism. What works in the rest of the world, doesn't work in the US.
/sarcasm

Whew! It is a good thing you put that sarcasm tag on there. I almost took you seriously.

 

[Heyo]

Whew! It is a good thing you put that sarcasm tag on there. I almost took you seriously.

I almost meant it seriously. At least the gun advertisers mean it seriously as that is one of their arguments whenever someone points to working gun laws elsewhere.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I almost meant it seriously. At least the gun advertisers mean it seriously as that is one of their arguments whenever someone points to working gun laws elsewhere.

And more than once people have proposed a conspiracy by gun manufacturers. But in reality no conspiracy is necessary since gun owners do not lock up their guns anywhere near often enough. Gun stolen in burglaries are usually sold rather cheaply by the burglar. They tend to not want to have a gun since that makes their crime far worse, but they will no drug dealers and owning guns is almost a prerequisite to see drugs.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yea the system is not built well. I recall years ago doing a great job writing very precise objectives like “client will rate their anxiety at a 5 or lower 6 or more days a week for 1 month.”

Not allowed too confusing for the auditors.
Same company also told me I had to use psycho babble returner than plain terms. The psycho babble was almost always out of reach of the client. Some I had to dumb down for the professionals and not for the clients.

We didn't have psychobabble, but we had to saturate our notes with words like assisted, educated, prompted, directed, reminded, reviewed and all these other terms the auditors liked seeing before sending it to insurance.
It's rather infuriating, really, getting into the field expecting to help people and end up getting buried in a mountain of paperwork, endless calls and emails and texts, assessments up to your eyeballs, and end up spending very little time helping people.

 

[Heyo]

And more than once people have proposed a conspiracy by gun manufacturers.

A conspiracy is a clandestine operation. There is nothing hidden in the gun lobby, it's all in the open.

 

[Truth in love]

At first it would end all death sentences.

(And it wouldn't touch abortions as human rights are only granted to persons. Granting personhood to foetuses would have to be done in a next step.)