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Queen Elizabeth II and the Davidic Line

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Why do we have to like the Royal Family to be patriotic?
Why do we need the spongers? They were Nazi sympathisers, one of the prince's is a paedophile.
Personally, even though Elizabeth is technically my head of state as a Canadian, I see supporting the monarchy as pretty unpatriotic. The Queen is the symbol of another country; she's never even lived here.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Deuteronomy 28:13
13 And the Lord shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the Lord thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them:
Those are the words of Moses. They're not from the horse's mouth.
Matthew 28:18
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
A very strange statement not found anywhere else in the NT. Take literally, it means you can only talk to the manager, never to the boss. And it invites us to imagine God in retirement, in the bar at the Celestial Golf Club after a round or two with Moloch and Thoth.

It also makes even more nonsense of the Trinity doctrine.
Is the Queen of the Line of David? If yes, does this explain why Britain has never lost a War?
The Brits have lost plenty of wars ─ the War of Independence with the North American colonies springs to mind, but there are many others. The reason they haven't had their homeland overrun in war ─ well, not since 1066 ─ is due to the English Channel.
 
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Brickjectivity

System Override
Staff member
Premium Member
Is the Queen of the Line of David?
I like the woman who is queen. She could be adopted into the line of David through faith, however genetics would not matter. Even if she were somehow genetically a descendant it would never be enough to make her of his line. There are points in the law that say a person can be 'Cut off' from Israel, so any one of her ancestors may have gotten themselves cut off from Israel. There are too many things which could cut her off from the line, and she has no way of proving that none of them affect her. So she'd have to be adopted for it to matter, so genetic descent would not be very helpful to such a claim, particularly one with such a mysterious and surprise appearance.

Do you agree that the Hand of God/Elohim is surely on the throne of the Queen Elizabeth II?
There is a scripture which says heaven is the throne and the earth is the footstool.

Do you assert that the Queen has been Faithful to her Oath of maintaining the Laws of God and the True Profession of the Gospel?
There is another verse which says "It is the glory of kings to uncover a matter. It is the glory of the LORD to conceal it." The oath of the queen was foolishly taken, however so is every oath. She is released from those parts she is unable to fulfill. She has done much penance for that already. I don't think anybody holds it against her.

Do you agree that the Queen has been Faithful to her Oath to Stop the Growth of Iniquity?
I have no idea, but the same applies above. Oaths are foolish. Who can force God to enforce their promises?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
In the UK we are celebrating the Queen's Platinum Jubilee Weekend. Is the Queen of the Line of David? If yes, does this explain why Britain has never lost a War? Do you agree that Britain has never lost a War? Do you agree that the Hand of God/Elohim is surely on the throne of the Queen Elizabeth II? Do you assert that the Queen has been Faithful to her Oath of maintaining the Laws of God and the True Profession of the Gospel? Do you agree that the Queen has been Faithful to her Oath to Stop the Growth of Iniquity?

When England was ruling India, they ruined it. They treated human being like rodents. Murdered, raped, pillaged and ruined a country that was once the biggest GDP contributor in the world. Very soon, India became one of the poorest countries in the world in terms of how many people make such little money as the value of a dollar a day.

I just took India as an example, but they did this all over the world. Their divide and conquer strategy broke countries into pieces and left them in turmoil. They plugged and played this system where ever they could. If you think that's God's hand and its because of some Davidic gene, it's a monstrous, cheap, thieving gene.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Please provide some sort of valid citation to show that British Royal House is of the Davidic Line

As far as i am aware there is little or no Jewish in the royal history and the family tree can only be traced back just over 1200 years

And you have not really attempted to respond to either of the points in my post which discredit your original claim that britain had never lost a war, on the contrary you are now making excuses for their losses

I don't think Citations or even presenting a Family Tree can validate that the British Royal House is of the Davidic Line, as false claims and forgeries can be made. These things are believed through Faith in the light of the Fulfilment of Biblical Prophecy.

I stated that Britain has never lost a War because this is claimed and repeated in some quarters of British Society. I put the question whether this is true to get members to challenge this assertion.
 
I stated that Britain has never lost a War because this is claimed and repeated in some quarters of British Society.

I've never heard anyone say that.

The closest I can think of is the idea Britain hasn't been invaded since 1066 (although that isn't actually correct either).

"Some quarters" of British society think the Queen is a shape-shifting lizard cocaine kingpin (or queenpin) though so anything is possible...
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I just gotta answer these questions for me, @Altfish may have different answers but im guessing they will be similar.



Couldn't really miss it, the BBC have disrupted normal viewing many times over the years by cutting chunks out of series to play this royal boring nonsense.

For many Christians the Elizabeth Coronation video is inspirational. Elizabeth II is a devoted Bible-based Christian. I assume that you are not a Christian that that's why you find the Coronation video boring. Are you an Atheist?


They are parasites on British society.

Elizabeth II has given 70 years of selfless service to the country. Don't you agree with this? I attended local community Queen's Platinum Jubilee Celebration yesterday.



I am a brit living in France, what do you think. I personally feel far more European than small minded, little island British.

Christians have different perspectives. True Christians are separate from the rest of the World and given that Britain is led by Christians that will make them separate from the World including Europe.
 
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Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
British Israelism?

*cue the antisemitism and racism*

British Israelism

British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is the pseudoarchaeological, pseudohistorical[1] and pseudoreligious[2] belief that the people of the British Isles are "genetically, racially, and linguistically the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.[3] With roots in the 16th century, British Israelism was inspired by several 19th century English writings such as John Wilson's 1840 Our Israelitish Origin.[4] Numerous British Israelite organisations were set up throughout the British Empire as well as in the United States from the 1870s onwards; a number of these organisations are independently active as of the early 21st century. In America, the idea gave rise to the Christian Identity movement.

British Israelism - Wikipedia
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Why do we have to like the Royal Family to be patriotic?
Why do we need the spongers? They were Nazi sympathisers, one of the prince's is a paedophile.

Given that the Royal Family is the Head of Britain, is it possible to be patriotic without liking the Royal Family?

I appreciate your point about the Evil reported in the family. Doesn't every family have Evil individuals among them? Elizabeth II is a Devoted Bible-based Christian. I attended local community Queen's Platinum Jubilee Celebration yesterday.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
British Israelism

British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is the pseudoarchaeological, pseudohistorical[1] and pseudoreligious[2] belief that the people of the British Isles are "genetically, racially, and linguistically the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.[3] With roots in the 16th century, British Israelism was inspired by several 19th century English writings such as John Wilson's 1840 Our Israelitish Origin.[4] Numerous British Israelite organisations were set up throughout the British Empire as well as in the United States from the 1870s onwards; a number of these organisations are independently active as of the early 21st century.
From your article:

Parfitt suggests that the creation of British Israelism was inspired by numerous ideological factors, which included: a desire of its adherents, many of whom were from ordinary backgrounds, to prove that they had a glorious past; emerging pride in Western imperialism and colonialism, and a belief in the "racial superiority of white Anglo-Saxon Protestants".[13]: 62  Aikau characterized the movement as being "fundamentally about providing a rationale for Anglo-Saxon superiority."[59] To Kidd, its theology represents a "quasi-heresy", which serves to "blunt the universalist message apparent in the New Testament."[12]: 204  Its role in fostering antisemitism in conservative Protestant Christianity has been noted by historians,[43]: 57  along with its role in fostering a feeling of "racial chauvinism" which is "not always covert".

In America, the idea gave rise to the Christian Identity movement.
So you agree that it's a white supremacist movement?
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
Those are the words of Moses. They're not from the horse's mouth.
When the words are fulfilled that means you are the people of Israel described in Scripture. The Scriptures/Bible is the Living Word of God/Elohim.



A very strange statement not found anywhere else in the NT. Take literally, it means you can only talk to the manager, never to the boss. And it invites us to imagine God in retirement, in the bar at the Celestial Golf Club after a round or two with Moloch and Thoth.

It also makes even more nonsense of the Trinity doctrine.

There are different ways to interpret the Scriptures/Bible, the Literal being one of them. The members of the Earthly Universal Roman Catholic Church follow the Literal Interpretation. This is the True Church for the Realm. Elohim/God has given the Roman Catholic Church Dominion/Power over the Whole World.





The Brits have lost plenty of wars ─ the War of Independence with the North American colonies springs to mind, but there are many others. The reason they haven't had their homeland overrun in war ─ well, not since 1066 ─ is due to the English Channel.

I raised the question so that members can challenge the assertion that Britain has never lost a War.
 

Elihoenai

Well-Known Member
I like the woman who is queen. She could be adopted into the line of David through faith, however genetics would not matter. Even if she were somehow genetically a descendant it would never be enough to make her of his line. There are points in the law that say a person can be 'Cut off' from Israel, so any one of her ancestors may have gotten themselves cut off from Israel. There are too many things which could cut her off from the line, and she has no way of proving that none of them affect her. So she'd have to be adopted for it to matter, so genetic descent would not be very helpful to such a claim, particularly one with such a mysterious and surprise appearance.

You are providing a Non-literal Interpretation of what it means to be a Descendant of David.




There is a scripture which says heaven is the throne and the earth is the footstool.

Genesis 41:40

40 Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.


Elohim/God rules in Heaven and on Earth. Do you agree that the Throne of Egypt is an Earthly Throne?




There is another verse which says "It is the glory of kings to uncover a matter. It is the glory of the LORD to conceal it." The oath of the queen was foolishly taken, however so is every oath. She is released from those parts she is unable to fulfill. She has done much penance for that already. I don't think anybody holds it against her.

I have no idea, but the same applies above. Oaths are foolish. Who can force God to enforce their promises?

Deuteronomy 29:12-13

12 That thou shouldest enter into covenant with the Lord thy God, and into his oath, which the Lord thy God maketh with thee this day:

13 That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.


Yes, because of the trappings of Royalty it appears Queen Elizabeth II is not able to make good on the some or all of her Oaths.

You are not teaching Bible Doctrine. You must have Oaths to be a True Follower of Elohim/God.
 
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