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Reaping the effects of rejecting Yahweh’s Word

firedragon

Veteran Member
Hi epronovost. Good afternoon. Ancient laws I can agree with. But since His Laws are kept by His people even now, I would say Yahweh's civilization is very much alive. Yahweh is eternal. His Laws are just as relevant in our day and age than they were thousands of years ago. One of those laws in Deuteronomy 22:5 shows that women and men are different and the lines shouldn't be blurred. Yahweh's Laws are good laws and they cannot be surpassed.

Out of curiosity, why do you pronounce Gods name? Im just asking because you are an "Israelite" as you call yourself.
 

Viker

Häxan
I realize you might think my question is absurd, but I'm going to ask it anyway. How about you and other Christians mind your own business and stop obsessing over the lives of LGBTQ+ people? I know it's hard for some Christians to keep their religious bigotry to themselves, but you can at least try. As @Left Coast pointed out, there are more pressing issues in the world that you and other Christians should be concerned about. After reading your OP, it's no wonder why Christianity is so often rejected by unbelievers.
Some people require there be boogeymen and need to hate in order to get by.
 

Mark Charles Compton

Pineal Peruser
If dressing up and acting like a billionaire is truly your thing then keep at it, gurl!
When I dress up as a billionaire... I take my advice from Mathew Lesko:

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firedragon

Veteran Member
I wasn’t going to post anything today, but I heard something this week that caused me concern. As many of you know, there is a lot of change going on in our societies regarding gender rights and how someone identifies. As a mental health support worker, I’ve noticed this has come down in to my very own workplace. Women identifying as men, men identifying as women, and everything in between. You have to be careful nowadays not to call someone who is clearly woman ‘she’, or ‘her’ for fear of upsetting them. My normal choice of action is to avoid those who identify in this way. Nowadays, a person’s perceived identity is very important to them. Being mis-identified (accidentally or on purpose) is uncomfortable and can be offensive (and can be perceived as a form of harassment). Calling what is clearly a grown man, with a beard, and a low voice a ‘man’, or a ‘he’ could get you involved in an altercation.

What caught my attention was the story of a man who committed a crime, and during sentencing he said he identifies as a woman, so, he was sent to a woman’s prison. You can probably realize that such wouldn’t end well. He got several of the women there pregnant. I sigh and I pray about the evil situation we face in the world, all because Yahweh’s Word has been rejected. Yahweh has said male and female, created he them in Genesis 1:27, but people want to identify as something other than that which they were born as. Can’t people see that this confusion we are reaping, which comes from rejection of Yahweh’s Law, is getting out of hand? Men competing in women’s sports and winning all the games. How about people of a certain race, identifying as another race? Or people of a certain age, identifying as a different age to what they are? Can’t people see this is getting out of hand?

What gets me is this is even affecting children. Children are even claiming to identify as the opposite gender to which they are. Children, whose minds are unstable and who don’t even know what they themselves want.

No-one looks at the fact that sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.

Further, for those who are unwise enough to support gender reassignment, it might be worth to know that many trans people regret changing their gender. A new term I heard about was de-transitioning. You may have heard it yourself of trans people attempting to reverse their transition to a different sex. The number of young people seeking gender transition is at the highest it has ever been, but little is reported about how many of them regret the decision later, finding they are unhappy with their new gender. There’s even a charity that has been set up called The Detransition Advocacy Network, which aims to provide guidance to trans people who have undergone gender reassignment, but now want to change back to their original gender. I don’t know about you, but I feel the LGBTQ and whatever other letters are added on (I lose track) should feel ashamed. They are pushing for transitioning but they have no idea the damage that it is doing to people’s lives.

How about getting back to the Bible? We can achieve peace with our gender, with our life, when we keep Yahweh’s Law and embrace His Word. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: “33 for Yahweh is not an Elohim of confusion, but of peace.” This world is in confusion and I’m afraid that due to the spiraling conditions of this world, the only thing that will put a stop to this evil will be when Yahshua our Savior returns and rules over this world in righteousness. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. This whole gender reassignment I know is an irritation to Yahweh as it is to me and it's rooted in a lack of peace. Peace is given to those who keep His Laws.

John 16:33 "These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

I understand the real problem at hand. Especially about the episode you spoke of where a man was sent to a woman's prison. What else could the courts do??;) This comes up in the toilettes, showers, sports clubs and all kinds of things.

But I have a question. Don't you think some of the issues you mentioned like "Now" this is happening could have always been there, we just didn't talk about it. Or do you think its really increasing? Are there any studies that say that?
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Until Christians deal with the moral issues in their own churches, they need to keep their mouths shut about how other people live their lives. They don't have the moral ground to piously judge other people. In fact, Christians should be more concerned about the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in someone else's eye (LGBTQ+ or not). For instance, the sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church and the 68% of Christian men who are addicted to pornography. It's hypocritical for Christians to judge other people. As the old adage goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."

Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
  • 77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 36 percent view pornography on a daily basis
  • 32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).
The statistics for middle-aged Christian men (ages 31 to 49) are no less disturbing:
  • 77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
  • 64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
  • 18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).
Even married Christian men are falling prey to pornography and extramarital sexual affairs at alarming rates:
  • 55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 35 percent had an extramarital affair.
Source: Is Porn Addiction a Problem in Your Church?
 
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firedragon

Veteran Member
Do you really think that is a question a 1st grader would ask?

If they are taught about it, maybe. Could be. A friend in New Zealand had his son wanting to be a girl at the age of 8, and now it's been a few years. She is a girl now and identifies as a girl. But I think they had to go for therapy or some kind of sessions. She was also taking medication.

But one thing I must say is that, apparently she is happier now.

@Messianic Israelite

In this kind of scenario, how would you handle it? Now there could be an imposter like that guy who went to a women's jail, but most could be genuine as the case above. And their happiness matters in my opinion.

Dilemma?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Until Christians deal with the moral issues in their own churches, they need to keep their mouths shut about how other people live their lives. They don't have the moral ground to piously judge other people. In fact, Christians should be more concerned about the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in someone else's eye (LGBTQ+ or not). For instance, the sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church and the 68% of Christian men who are addicted to pornography. It's hypocritical for Christians to judge other people. As the old adage goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."

Porn Addiction Statistics
The statistics for Christian men between 18 and 30 years old are particularly striking:
  • 77 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 36 percent view pornography on a daily basis
  • 32 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 12 percent think they may be).
The statistics for middle-aged Christian men (ages 31 to 49) are no less disturbing:
  • 77 percent looked at pornography while at work in the past three months.
  • 64 percent view pornography at least monthly.
  • 18 percent admit being addicted to pornography (and another 8 percent think they may be).
Even married Christian men are falling prey to pornography and extramarital sexual affairs at alarming rates:
  • 55 percent look at pornography at least monthly.
  • 35 percent had an extramarital affair.
Source: Is Porn Addiction a Problem in Your Church?

Bloody hell.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Well, I treat everybody as human, but I don't love everybody. To me there is a middle ground between hate and love in some cases.

The ‘in between’ I think is the mindset dictators and war criminals use to justify genocide and the like. Love is a strong word and used for a reason I believe, so there be no justification for cruelty and oppression in our world.

Of course it cannot be enforced but we can be educated from childhood to view all the world as our family. Seeing others as family would we be willing to murder family members in places for example like we see in Ukraine, Syria and Myanmar? It’s the mindset that sees an ‘us and them’ that enables us to be easily manipulated to demonise others.
 
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