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Bigotry as practice

mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
KWED said:
Did we "get from philosophy to science"?
Are you trying to say that Agrippa's Trilemma is what caused science? :tearsofjoy:
I think you need to explain your position, in detail.
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No! You have to explain how you use reason to understand the world. You made the positive claim. You deliver!
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
KWED said:
It's in the post above. Didn't you see it?

You've posted this before and it is patently obvious now, as then, that you don't understand what it means.
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So what is the scientific theory of wrong acts or what ever you want to call it. Please link to a scientific site.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
mikkel_the_dane said:
That would make some of the acts of the US and Uk during WWII terroristic acts,
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Ah, debating slippery slope so that there is no definable line between right and wrong. To hell with everything. Chaos. Anarchy. Every man for himself. Do unto others then split. Kill thy neighbor. No God to be found anywhere.
 
Link

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
KWED said:
Any group that deliberately targets innocent civilians in the name of advancing a political or religious agenda are terrorists, regardless of who they are or where they come from.
You think that because you support a terrorist group, they are therefore not terrorists. That kind of naive thinking is what terrorist groups rely on.
You are as responsible for the deaths caused by those groups as the people pulling the trigger or detonating the bomb.

Maybe you are an inherently evil person and would support terrorism without the religious connection, but I will give you the benefit and assume, in Weinberg's classic words "to get good people to do evil takes religion" (or similar ideology).
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Your government targets innocents all the time. Put yourself on the terrorist list first.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
F1fan said:
Ah, debating slippery slope so that there is no definable line between right and wrong. To hell with everything. Chaos. Anarchy. Every man for himself. Do unto others then split. Kill thy neighbor. No God to be found anywhere.
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How do you with reason define right and wrong?
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
SkepticThinker said:
My "whaaa?" was aimed at your claim that quoting someone means you worship them.
I find that statement to be quite bizarre.


Okay ...
For good people to do evil things, it takes religion?
Sure, I can give a few examples:

1. Genital mutilation
2. Flying airplanes into buildings
3. Defending chattel slavery
4. Demonizing gay people
5. Telling people they are going to hell for not believing as you do
6. Murdering "witches"
7. Murdering heretics
8. Advocating that human suffering is a good thing and perpetuating it (See: Mother Teresa)
9. Promoting the idea that this life doesn't matter and that there's some other better life waiting for us if we just give in to the whims of a God that can't be demonstrated to exist

Those are just off the top of my head.

Once you think God is on your side, you can justify just about action, as people throughout history have done.



I've got a better question ...

"Name an ethical statement made or an action performed by a believer that could not have been made or performed by a non-believer."
-Christopher Hitchens
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Hmm. So "lists" made by someone is your thesis about religion?

Lets see if lists make a religion bad, good, or ugly. But unlike you, lets be a bit specific and based on real research. Not a cut and paste from a man uneducated in religion or sociology.

1. 15 million people killed by Joseph Stalin. Atheist.
2. 20 Million people killed by Mao. Atheist.
3. 50 million people killed by war. 2nd world war. Secular.
4. 93% of all wars ever fought in the history of the known world, recorded were secular.
5. Democide in Romania 1948-89. Atheist.
6. 60-65k murdered by terrorists in Sri Lanka since 1983 - 2009. Leninist. Secular. Atheist.
7. Peru’s Shining Path - 60,000 dead. Atheist.
8. Bulgarian democide 48-53. 30-50 thousand killed. Atheist.
9. Polish Democide - 30000 killed.
10. Sino vietnam war. 30000 killed. Since, atheist.
11. Check democide. 13k to 60k killed. Atheist.
 
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