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Do you want a teaching that....

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
That is still assuming a definitive "right" answer of "spirituality" though. Why couldn't someone receive quality teaching and "see the light" without spirituality?
Sorry if this sounds like I am teaching you the correct answer, that is not my intention, I only answer from how I have understood it to be, but for those who cling to this world of the physical realm and reject their spiritual inner being, how could they discover the truth that comes from the unseen? (the esoteric) or the nonphysical world.
This physical world is the hindrance for seeing the truth of God.

All there is in spiritual practice is to let go of the cling to this world and open the inner being to the realm of spirituality. :)

This is why it is so important to let go/destroy the feeling of a self and become one with existence
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
That feels a bit presumptive and insulting to me. It automatically assumes that everyone is bad and wrong and only your religion is good and right. That strikes me as a basis for automatically destroying everything a person currently is so they can be recreated in the image of that religion. The possibility that someone could already be on a valid path isn't even considered. That'd be indoctrination, not teaching.

Teaching is about providing information. If you're intentionally making people suffer and pushing a predefined transformation, you've gone beyond teaching.
I did not read this from the OP at all

I read the OP as:
being unrelated to Religion, but full of introspection, not being scared to investigate one's innermost fears and even search ones suppressed traumas
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The question is:

Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?

To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.

Quran is not easy for me. I'm in love with a disbeliever and I know God's words are true when he says "You cannot guide who you love". If it was my wishes, I would probably make hell disappear, but it's a retribution and God's wrath and hate is virtuous, honorable, and beautiful.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
I managed to misread this as 'Do you want a teaching hat..'
Could this be related that you very recently changed your Avatar in the one with a hat. Or came the change of Avatar afterwards?
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
I managed to misread this as 'Do you want a teaching hat..'



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Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Could this be related that you very recently changed your Avatar in the one with a hat. Or came the change of Avatar afterwards?
If was after. I'm just a teaching assistant with a hat obsession.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
The question is:

Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?

To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.

Pouring bottles don't fill. Is not wisdom the same?

Those who constantly teach don't listen.

A wise teacher gets wiser. They accept knowledge from all sources, and respect all. Often the pupil is the teacher.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Pouring bottles don't fill. Is not wisdom the same?

Those who constantly teach don't listen.

A wise teacher gets wiser. They accept knowledge from all sources, and respect all. Often the pupil is the teacher.
What you said has truth, which to me, is why abandoned all teachers except God and the family of the reminder (hold directly to Quran and Ahlulbat- not middle men).
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Pouring bottles don't fill. Is not wisdom the same?

Those who constantly teach don't listen.

A wise teacher gets wiser. They accept knowledge from all sources, and respect all. Often the pupil is the teacher.
It is the student who will have to do the work, the teacher has already gone the path before and now lays down the roadmap for the student to see. But the road is a very bumpy road
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It is the student who will have to do the work, the teacher has already gone the path before and now lays down the roadmap for the student to see. But the road is a very bumpy road

Keep the old proverb in mind "the people were once a cure, and now they have become the disease" and just keep going. Don't settle.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
The question is:

Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?

To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.
I wouldn't like a teaching that didn't transform me, so the first is a natural outcome of the second.
 
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