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You know it the moment you feel itIt will feel like suffering to whom?
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You know it the moment you feel itIt will feel like suffering to whom?
Sorry if this sounds like I am teaching you the correct answer, that is not my intention, I only answer from how I have understood it to be, but for those who cling to this world of the physical realm and reject their spiritual inner being, how could they discover the truth that comes from the unseen? (the esoteric) or the nonphysical world.That is still assuming a definitive "right" answer of "spirituality" though. Why couldn't someone receive quality teaching and "see the light" without spirituality?
I did not read this from the OP at allThat feels a bit presumptive and insulting to me. It automatically assumes that everyone is bad and wrong and only your religion is good and right. That strikes me as a basis for automatically destroying everything a person currently is so they can be recreated in the image of that religion. The possibility that someone could already be on a valid path isn't even considered. That'd be indoctrination, not teaching.
Teaching is about providing information. If you're intentionally making people suffer and pushing a predefined transformation, you've gone beyond teaching.
You know it the moment you feel it
The question is:
Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?
To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.
Could this be related that you very recently changed your Avatar in the one with a hat. Or came the change of Avatar afterwards?I managed to misread this as 'Do you want a teaching hat..'
If was after. I'm just a teaching assistant with a hat obsession.Could this be related that you very recently changed your Avatar in the one with a hat. Or came the change of Avatar afterwards?
My answer explained that alreadyWho feels?
(and/or) who knows not?Who knows?
I don’t know
Silence will reveal the Wise exhort…but who am I?
The question is:
Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?
To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.
What you said has truth, which to me, is why abandoned all teachers except God and the family of the reminder (hold directly to Quran and Ahlulbat- not middle men).Pouring bottles don't fill. Is not wisdom the same?
Those who constantly teach don't listen.
A wise teacher gets wiser. They accept knowledge from all sources, and respect all. Often the pupil is the teacher.
It is the student who will have to do the work, the teacher has already gone the path before and now lays down the roadmap for the student to see. But the road is a very bumpy roadPouring bottles don't fill. Is not wisdom the same?
Those who constantly teach don't listen.
A wise teacher gets wiser. They accept knowledge from all sources, and respect all. Often the pupil is the teacher.
It is the student who will have to do the work, the teacher has already gone the path before and now lays down the roadmap for the student to see. But the road is a very bumpy road
I wouldn't like a teaching that didn't transform me, so the first is a natural outcome of the second.The question is:
Do you want a teaching that you like? Or do you want a teaching that transforms you?
To transform you have to do the things you do not like.....those that make you suffer before you see the light.
Keep the old proverb in mind "the people were once a cure, and now they have become the disease" and just keep going. Don't settle.
The reverse, I believe, can also be true