If it has not been established as a fact, how can they justifiably claim to know it? Remember, the term "know" carries with it the implication that what is being claimed to be known is true.
They should not
claim to know it since it cannot be proven as a fact (it is not established) but they can still believe that they know it in the following sense:
2a: to be aware of the truth or factuality of
: be convinced or certain of
Definition of know
1a(1): to perceive directly
: have direct cognition of
(2): to have understanding of
importance of knowing oneself(3): to recognize the nature of
: discernb(1): to recognize as being the same as something previously
known(2): to be acquainted or familiar with
(3): to have experience of
2a: to be aware of the truth or factuality of
: be convinced or certain of
b: to have a practical understanding of
knows how to write
Definition of KNOW
You don't have proper evidence when it comes to Mr B being a reincarnation of Jesus.
Baha'u'llah was not a reincarnation of Jesus! Baha'is do not believe in reincarnation.
Baha'u'llah was the return of Christ, the Comforter and the Spirit of truth who brought the Holy Spirit just as Jesus had brought the Holy Spirit.
Baha'u'llah was a different man in a different body with a different soul but He brought the SAME Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit.
Look at what Jesus said in John 14, which flows from one verse to the next verse.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; -- Jesus says that the Father (God) will give us another Comforter. Jesus was the first Comforter and Baha’u’llah was the second Comforter.
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for hedwelleth with you, and shall be in you. – Jesus says that the world cannot see or receive the Spirit of truth (Baha’u’llah) because we do not know him
yet, since he has not come
yet; but the disciples know the Spirit of truth because it is
the same Holy Spirit that resides in them as a result of Jesus. Iows, the Holy Spirit Baha’u’llah will bring is the same Holy Spirit that Jesus brought, since it is the Bounty of God which never changes.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. – Jesus said He would come but if you tie that together to the two verses above, we can see Jesus did not mean He would come in the same body, but rather the same Spirit would come (another Comforter). Moreover, he could not have addressing only the disciples, because neither Jesus nor Baha’u’llah came during their lifetimes.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.– Finally, Jesus made it perfectly clear that the world would not see Him again after He left; but we will see Him because His spirit lives on forever. As a result of believing in Jesus we will gain eternal life (because I live, ye shall live also).
Starting with your conclusion and then trying to find evidence that supports it is a terrible way to get to the truth. It's like you are TRYING to introduce biases into it!
That is not what I did, I was suggesting you do it. I meant that an atheist has to entertain the
possibility that a God exists before he is going to look for evidence of a God existing. I did not do it that way. I first believed in Baha'u'llah and later came to believe in God. I assumed that a God must exist if Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God, but I did not really 'believe in God' until much later.
Yeah, I don't see how that is anything more than reading a claim and "feeling" it to be true.
It is nothing like that. It is reading the claims so you will know what the claims are and then looking at the evidence that supports those claims. Feelings should not enter in because then you might only see what you want to see. It should be a purely intellectual exercise.
