Trump's strong support / Democrats' lack of support, by white women

[Stevicus]

On the other hand - no working class people own newspapers, TV stations, or social media platforms, and therefore have a comparably very limited ability to shape public opinion and policy.

I think you quoted from my post but attributed it to @F1fan.

But if you're suggesting that the wealthy have an unfair advantage over the working class in the electoral process, I agree. That kind of proves my point, actually, as it would suggest that if Democrats really were pro-worker, they'd lose a lot of support from the luxury classes.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I guess you are OK with policies that lead to illnesses and deaths for children.

Endorsing deliberately killing children while complaining about some getting sick just strikes me as silly.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Only if you’re blind and ignorant

Both maladies are usually evident when a person cannot respond to a comment without diverting to something else

I have said multiple times I don't care for trump. So I am free to criticize Biden for being just as bad.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

I have said multiple times I don't care for trump. So I am free to criticize Biden for being just as bad.

You can criticize anyone you like.
But that doesn’t make you right.
The harm done by trump will take decades to cure, if it’s even possible.
At least Biden is working hard to do the best he can, considering the bad hand he was dealt, and the wrong wing party doing everything possible to inhibit progress.

 

[F1fan]

I have said multiple times I don't care for trump. So I am free to criticize Biden for being just as bad.

What would you think a good president would be doing?

Frankly the circumstances facing the USA are so bad that I don't see anyone as president getting favorable assessments.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You can criticize anyone you like.
But that doesn’t make you right.
The harm done by trump will take decades to cure, if it’s even possible.
At least Biden is working hard to do the best he can, considering the bad hand he was dealt, and the wrong wing party doing everything possible to inhibit progress.

Lol, Biden is working hard? He doesn't even appear to know what day it is most of the time.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You can criticize anyone you like.
But that doesn’t make you right.
The harm done by trump will take decades to cure, if it’s even possible.
At least Biden is working hard to do the best he can, considering the bad hand he was dealt, and the wrong wing party doing everything possible to inhibit progress.

Blaming the previous administration is a cop out.

 

[F1fan]

Lol, Biden is working hard? He doesn't even appear to know what day it is most of the time.

This is just a divisive attempt at being insulting. It's not true in any way as we see Biden quite active and directing policies aimed to help America deal with its mounting problems. Compare Biden to trump, and we see Biden having a busy work schedule, not watching TV all morning. And Biden hasn't taken golf weekends, costing America millions per trip, as we know trump did. Trump played more golf in his first three years than Obama did in 8 years. And trump raked in profits charging America big fees to play golf at his own resorts.

Biden is a worker. So be careful about your bogus insults when we have good memories, and can see what's going on for ourselves with Biden's work ethic.

 

[F1fan]

Blaming the previous administration is a cop out.

Not when we are aware how incompetent the previous president was, and how his staff was badly short handed. Plus look at the sabotage trump did because he was so upset that he was thrown out of office. Perhaps you don't remember some of the things trump did, like install a lot of appointees to positions so they could favor the bad trump policies. Every new president inherits the good and bad from the previous administration. Biden has had to rebuild the government. Don't forget, trump delayed the transition of government, so Biden lost time there when it was most crucial. That's on trump.

 

[Wildswanderer]

This is just a divisive attempt at being insulting. It's not true in any way as we see Biden quite active and directing policies aimed to help America deal with its mounting problems.

All I've seen is inept bungling of, well, most everything he touches.
Border crisis, Afghanistan, covid, all poorly handled.

 

[metis]

The same exact thing can be said about Biden.

Going by your demeanor and also the fact that you continue to blindly support a man even his sister and niece say is without ethics, then I would say that it's not Biden that has much more "questionable" affiliation. Jesus taught "love one another as I have loved you", so is that what Trump repeated says? Nope. He is a bastion of hate and self-centeredness as one should easily pick up by paying attention to his rallies.

Of what? That he read stuff by Hitler because an ex said so? Seriously?

Even his and niece have publicly stated that he has authoritarian tendencies and cannot be trusted. And the Donald himself says that he's closer to his sister than any other person. And in "The Art of the Deal", Trump says that his father taught him to always remember that he comes from "German warriors and kings" and that he should always act accordingly.

But I'm sure you know much more about Trump personally that his first wife, his sister, and his niece, right?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Going by your demeanor and also the fact that you continue to blindly support a man

I never blindly support anyone. I don't even care for the man. That doesn't make Biden a better choice.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Biden caused the deaths of Americans, and left countless allies in the hands of terrorists. That's not debatable or forgivable.

600,000 Americans died from COVID on Trump's watch.

Hello?!

 

[SkepticThinker]

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. As the Times bragged later, spinning it as heroic:
"There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy."

Ironic doesn't begin to cover it. A massive conspiracy to influence the election and stifle true freedom is boasted about.
Here's the clincher:

"They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against "disinformation" and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. "
Uh- huh. That's election tampering on a huge scale and The Times is crowing about it.

This doesn't address anything I said in that post.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That doesn't mean information about him being concealed didn't influence the election.

Tech companies, actually shut down the account of one of America’s most-read newspapers to inhibit users from reading the story.

Twitter blocked users from sharing the URL to the Post’s story about Hunter and locked some users out of accounts for doing that, including high-profile ones belonging to the Post itself.

Thanks for an opinion piece from a tabloid newspaper.

I guess.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Good for them.

So you think mass sickness and death is a good thing?
That governments aren't' responsible for the safety of their citizens?

Why is it that the Christians seem to have this callous attitude about massive loss of life? It's baffling.

 

[metis]

Who is really promoting Hitler like behavior? It's the left, with their constant push for tyranny. Mask mandates, vaccine mandates, always more control.

You gotta be kidding! Mandates are not intrinsically "tyranny", much like having a mandate to pay taxes or not to smoke in an indoor public facility isn't "tyranny".

Matter of fact, getting one of the vaccines and wearing a mask in public enclosures is very much being pro-life, thus it's become increasingly obvious that you're much more into being pro-death. For you to claim you're "pro-life" just because you're anti-abortion clearly is just pure nonsense and a figment of your imagination. You simply are not accepting the Judeo-Christian mandate to "choose life" through your picking & choosing.

 

[metis]

I never blindly support anyone. I don't even care for the man. That doesn't make Biden a better choice.

The above is just a feeble attempt to dodge what you have been doing here as you continually have supported Trump over and over and over again.

 

[ecco]

However, your intentional omission of the qualifier about the $100 donations tells a lot about your views.

The fact that you're bending over backwards to defend shameless sucking up to billionaires tells a lot about your views.

Pointing out that you intentionally misrepresented the information in your linked article isn't bending over backwards to defend anyone.

It's to show that your article intentionally misrepresented the facts and that you furthered and compounded that misrepresentation by vomiting a qualifier about $100 donations.

Is there anything about the Democrats you find fault with? To me, at best, they're just the lesser of two evils, but you sound like a real cheerleader for that party.

Sure, I find fault with a lot of things. I find fault with the fact that they don't stick together like the Repubs do (Manchin). I find fault that they don't hit back harder on Republican lies and deceit (Pizza Parlor).

As to their policies? I wasn't at all pleased with the way Afghanistan went down. The interpreters should have been coming out for a long time. Sadly, Trump didn't begin this process when he announced the peace treaty with the Taliban and Biden didn't do anything from day one. I find fault that Biden didn't get tough on vaccines long before now. This is not in the COVID forum, so I'll say no more about it.

 

[ecco]

The GOP seems opposed to anything will help citizens going into the future.

The GOP is all about helping the very wealthy with massive tax cuts. Those very wealthy people are citizens just like the rest of us. They deserve all the help the GOP can give them.

Just for those with low heads, the third sentence is sarcasm.