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If humans can't unite on religion, is there a purpose to religion?

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To me, that answer is definitely no.

But there is an illusion that we can't, because we won't. God can make all us unite forcefully, but won't, at the same time, is very disappointed we have united on division and have agreed to not unite on the truth but leave everyone to their own path.

I believe the truth can be arrived at as a whole race, we can come to it. But those who know truth tend to be apathetic of teaching it to others while great majority of humans want to decide what to follow per their desires rather then submit to God.

As a result, it looks like uniting on truth is impossible, but it's not.
 

The Hammer

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To me, that answer is definitely no.

But there is an illusion that we can't, because we won't. God can make all us unite forcefully, but won't, at the same time, is very disappointed we have united on division and have agreed to not unite on the truth but leave everyone to their own path.

I believe the truth can be arrived at as a whole race, we can come to it. But those who know truth tend to be apathetic of teaching it to others while great majority of humans want to decide what to follow per their desires rather then submit to God.

As a result, it looks like uniting on truth is impossible, but it's not.

The purpose of Religions is to teach tolerance. The more Religions there are the more practice we get to be tolerant to others.

There is beauty in plurality.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
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Rabbi Rami Shapiro said something I find very helpful when it comes to apparent religious differences:

“Aren’t all religions equally true? No, all religions are equally false. The relationship of religion to truth is like that of a menu to a meal. The menu describes the meal as best it can. It points to something beyond itself. As long as we use the menu as a guide we do it honor. When we mistake the menu for the meal, we do it and ourselves a grave injustice.”
 

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I believe we have the faculty to perceive proofs and accept them. If we decide not to look for proofs and insights, but follow conjecture and desires, then we broke the pledge of morality which is for love to be guided by truth and guidance.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
To me, that answer is definitely no.

But there is an illusion that we can't, because we won't. God can make all us unite forcefully, but won't, at the same time, is very disappointed we have united on division and have agreed to not unite on the truth but leave everyone to their own path.

I believe the truth can be arrived at as a whole race, we can come to it. But those who know truth tend to be apathetic of teaching it to others while great majority of humans want to decide what to follow per their desires rather then submit to God.

As a result, it looks like uniting on truth is impossible, but it's not.
Seems to me that each person has to etch out their own "purpose" for religion.
In the exact same way each person must etch out their own "purpose" for life....

Now since you can not even get the followers of the same religion to agree on the Truth, I seriously doubt that you are going to get the all of humanity to agree...
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I believe we have the faculty to perceive proofs and accept them. If we decide not to look for proofs and insights, but follow conjecture and desires, then we broke the pledge of morality which is for love to be guided by truth and guidance.
It has been rather thoroughly demonstrated in numerous threads right here on ReligiousForums.com that one mans proof is another mans big steaming pile of bovine feces.
 

MikeF

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To me, that answer is definitely no.

But there is an illusion that we can't, because we won't. God can make all us unite forcefully, but won't, at the same time, is very disappointed we have united on division and have agreed to not unite on the truth but leave everyone to their own path.

I believe the truth can be arrived at as a whole race, we can come to it. But those who know truth tend to be apathetic of teaching it to others while great majority of humans want to decide what to follow per their desires rather then submit to God.

As a result, it looks like uniting on truth is impossible, but it's not.
Out of curiosity, if the vast majority of the world's population agreed to switch their religion to Mormonism, would you switch to Mormonism?

Perhaps it is your assumption that everyone should switch to believe whatever faith you may follow.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
And yet you flat out claimed that tolerance is NOT a purpose of religion...

Please do not twist my words. I said “no” to it being “the purpose of religions”. There is no one single purpose to all religions and not all religions teach “tolerance” (whatever you mean by that).
 
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McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Please do not twist my words. I said “no” to it being “The purpose of Religions”. There is no one single purpose to all religions and not all religions teach “tolerance” (whatever you mean by that).
Who has made the claim "one single purpose to all religions"?
I mean, other than you just now...

Seems to me you are quick to ask other to not twist your words while having no problem twisting the words of others.
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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It depends on one’s definition of religion. Hinduism and Buddhism are largely believed by their adherents to not be religions but ways of life. Buddhism especially because its purpose is not to worship God, it’s non-theistic. Hinduism has atheistic adherents. I don’t know if one could call Animism or Shamanism religions. All of those have different purposes, methods and goals.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Who has made the claim "one single purpose to all religions"?
I mean, other than you just now...

The post I originally responded to said “the purpose of religions is to teach tolerance.”

I said “no it’s not”. Because “it” is not. “It” does not exist, and if “it” does exist, “it” is not “to teach tolerance”.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The post I originally responded to said “the purpose of religions is to teach tolerance.”

I said “no it’s not”. Because “it” is not. “It” does not exist, and if “it” does exist, “it” is not “to teach tolerance”.
What is "it" that you claim is not?
What is "it" that you claim doesn't exist,
What is "it" that you claim doesn't teach tolerance?
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
The post I originally responded to said “the purpose of religions is to teach tolerance.”
And?
What it did NOT say is "one single purpose to all religions"...

Which brings up back to you twisting what was said...

I said “no it’s not”. Because “it” is not. “It” does not exist, and if “it” does exist, “it” is not “to teach tolerance”.
Your opinion is duly noted.
 
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