Christianity is not the only way to God

[Spirit of Light]

Another thing I would like to add is that I am big on justice and I do not believe Christianity, as believed, is just...
Some time ago a Baha'i friend of mine on my forum told me I missed my calling because I should have been an attorney.

Not sure i understand what you mean @Trailblazer

 

[Trailblazer]

I am not a Christian so i thinking that if others going to respect my belief the least i can do is to respect their belief

That is a good way to look at it, but I simply cannot respect the Christian belief of being the only way to God and I make no bones about it.

 

[Trailblazer]

Not sure i understand what you mean @Trailblazer

I mean I like arguing my case.

 

[Spirit of Light]

That is a good way to look at it, but I simply cannot respect the Christian belief of being the only way to God and I make no bones about it.

Are you not often saying Baha`i is the right religion
If @Barry Johnson belive his view and understanding is the correct one, and his understanding of the scripture say that Christ is the only truth. That in my view is his personal understanding and view. I often my self speak of the truth I believe in within Sufism, But to me i realized that other teachings may hold truth too, so i can not deny them their right to believe what they want
That said it does not mean i agree with every other religious teachings, but honestly i found a lot of similarities in many scriptures.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I mean I like arguing my case.

I believe he does too

 

[Trailblazer]

Are you not often saying Baha`i is the right religion

No, we do not say that the Baha'i Faith is the only right religion or the only way to God or the only way to be saved. We only say it is the religion for the present age (dispensation).

If @Barry Johnson belive his view and understanding is the correct one, and his understanding of the scripture say that Christ is the only truth. That in my view is his personal understanding and view. I often my self speak of the truth I believe in within Sufism, But to me i realized that other teachings may hold truth too, so i can not deny them their right to believe what they want
That said it does not mean i agree with every other religious teachings, but honestly i found a lot of similarities in many scriptures.

There is a lot of truth in the Christian scriptures and similarities to Baha'i but Christians twist them to mean things they do not mean and that is what makes me so mad. Jesus said He was the way to the Father and nobody could come to the Father but by Him, but Jesus never said that applies for all time! When Muhammad came and He was the way to the Father. Jesus said we get eternal life through Him but He never said we could not get eternal life through anyone else who came in the future. The Bible applied only to the Dispensation of Jesus, not for all of time and eternity!

The Baha'i Writings won't apply to all time either, they will apply only during the Dispensation of Baha'u'llah.

 

[Brian2]

That would be Christ, and Peter confirmed it was Christ.

Regards Tony

Jesus the Son of God is the Christ and the Bible says everyone will be judged by the man Jesus and by the Son.
John 5:22 Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.
Acts 17:31 For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Jesus the Son of God is the Christ and the Bible says everyone will be judged by the man Jesus and by the Son.
John 5:22 Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.
Acts 17:31 For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

If that is what you beleive Brian2, then I am not here to change your view.

The Father alone gives change to our hearts.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

Jesus the Son of God is the Christ and the Bible says everyone will be judged by the man Jesus and by the Son.
John 5:22 Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.
Acts 17:31 For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”

Funny thing, Baha'u'llah said something a little different about judgment. He said that judgement comes through God.

“Dost thou believe thou hast the power to frustrate His Will, to hinder Him from executing His judgment, or to deter Him from exercising His sovereignty? Pretendest thou that aught in the heavens or in the earth can resist His Faith? No, by Him Who is the Eternal Truth! Nothing whatsoever in the whole of creation can thwart His Purpose. Cast away, therefore, the mere conceit thou dost follow, for mere conceit can never take the place of truth. Be thou of them that have truly repented and returned to God, the God Who hath created thee, Who hath nourished thee, and made thee a minister among them that profess thy faith.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 220

 

[ameyAtmA]

They would be demonic . I could tell you of real experiences prior to being a Christian that i now realise were bad spirits. They can come as ' angels of light ' the bible warns .

Shri VishNu is pavitra, mangalam, all-auspicious, and especially dear in the form of Shri Ram and Shri KRshNa.
ParaBrahman-Parameshwar-ParamAtmA.
Pure Consciousness can be experienced without any worship to any specific being, by striving to be very virtuous, but Divine Grace is a big factor.

Of course there are bad spirits but they are not Brahman'.
Therefore, I am really curious to know who these bad spirits were. If you do not want to write here, please PM me if you are OK with it.

 

[Yoshua]

Yes, God is One. The dharma says there is only God. Anything else is an appearance within God. The multiple gods are multiple angels. Just as you have archangels and angels.

Hello!

Would you agree as Hindu that the God of Christians is the same as the God of Hinduism?
Just want to hear your answer to this.

 

[Yoshua]

Shri VishNu is pavitra, mangalam, all-auspicious, and especially dear in the form of Shri Ram and Shri KRshNa.
ParaBrahman-Parameshwar-ParamAtmA.
Pure Consciousness can be experienced without any worship to any specific being, by striving to be very virtuous, but Divine Grace is a big factor.

Of course there are bad spirits but they are not Brahman'.
Therefore, I am really curious to know who these bad spirits were. If you do not want to write here, please PM me if you are OK with it.

Hi Amey,

I just want to answer you on behalf of Barry since we both in the same faith. Christianity believed in God and Satan (demons or evil spirits). The Bible said in Isaiah 45:5-7,

5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, 6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is no other.
7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things. NIV

It is emphasized that there is no other God. He is the God who created the universe and humans. Therefore, any beliefs or faiths that are not in accordance with Christianity is a false god (demons or evil spirits).

 

[Aupmanyav]

God is love, whoever abides in love abides in God, and God in him, ..

In religions love is a much trafficked meaningless word. Sheep's clothing.

I just want to answer you on behalf of Barry since we both in the same faith. Christianity believed in God and Satan (demons or evil spirits).

Would you agree as Hindu that the God of Christians is the same as the God of Hinduism?Just want to hear your answer to this.

The concept of God itself is faulty. There is no God, and no Satan as well. These are fables.

 

[John1.12]

Are you not often saying Baha`i is the right religion
If @Barry Johnson belive his view and understanding is the correct one, and his understanding of the scripture say that Christ is the only truth. That in my view is his personal understanding and view. I often my self speak of the truth I believe in within Sufism, But to me i realized that other teachings may hold truth too, so i can not deny them their right to believe what they want
That said it does not mean i agree with every other religious teachings, but honestly i found a lot of similarities in many scriptures.

Every other religion contradicts Jesus when he said he's the only way to heaven. John 14.6 So on this alone ,which is the most crucial thing, we can't have a contradiction on this point. Other religions are teaching they are the way and the path . They all can't be the 'truth 'on this . Now of course there's truth in other religions ,we are created by God with eternity in our hearts, we are made with a spiritual ' radar - so to speak . But The most crucial part of salvation every religion is in opposite to Jesus on how to have eternal life ect . Either Jesus is wrong or every other religion . If we apply the law of non contradiction .

 

[Spirit of Light]

Every other religion contradicts Jesus when he said he's the only way to heaven. John 14.6 So on this alone ,which is the most crucial thing, we can't have a contradiction on this point. Other religions are teaching they are the way and the path . They all can't be the 'truth 'on this . Now of course there's truth in other religions ,we are created by God with eternity in our hearts, we are made with a spiritual ' radar - so to speak . But The most crucial part of salvation every religion is in opposite to Jesus on how to have eternal life ect . Either Jesus is wrong or every other religion . If we apply the law of non contradiction .

I will be honest and say i know to little about Christianity to go in to a deep discussion with you But may it be that what Jesus said was meant for Christians only? So when Jesus say he is the only way to heaven, means that for a Christian Jesus and the christian teaching is all they need, so they do not mix in teachings from other religions.

I am very aware i could be wrong on this

 

[John1.12]

The Bible does not say any of that.......
Your beliefs were all created by slapping verses together.
Your body will die and you will be raised in a spiritual body and that is not contingent upon Jesus coming back, because if it was you would never get a body at all since Jesus is not coming back.

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

He's not saying no one will see him EVER again. He's explaining he's going away. There's literally too many verses to put on Jesus return all through the bible. Its slightly insane to even say it

 

[John1.12]

I will be honest and say i know to little about Christianity to go in to a deep discussion with you But may it be that what Jesus said was meant for Christians only? So when Jesus say he is the only way to heaven, means that for a Christian Jesus and the christian teaching is all they need, so they do not mix in teachings from other religions.

I am very aware i could be wrong on this

Jesus is appealing to the world. Everyone without exception, he died for all . But all have to come freely to receive .

 

[Spirit of Light]

Jesus is appealing to the world. Everyone without exception, he died for all . But all have to come freely to receive .

I do agree people should come freely in to a belief

 

[Aupmanyav]

We only say it is the religion for the present age (dispensation).

How can that be? The latest from Allah is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of the Ahmadiyya religion. It is a sin not to acknowledge a missive from Allah. Fear Allah.

“Dost thou believe thou hast the power to frustrate His Will, to hinder Him from executing His judgment, or to deter Him from exercising His sovereignty? Pretendest thou that aught in the heavens or in the earth can resist His Faith? No, by Him Who is the Eternal Truth! Nothing whatsoever in the whole of creation can thwart His Purpose. Cast away, therefore, the mere conceit thou dost follow, for mere conceit can never take the place of truth. Be thou of them that have truly repented and returned to God, the God Who hath created thee, Who hath nourished thee, and made thee a minister among them that profess thy faith.”

Bahaollah's writings and Shoghi's translation of them is always interesting, always pretentious, as if they were written in Moses time. The translation was done in 20th Century. Shoghi died in 1957. Why did this gentleman use Chaucer's English?

He's not saying no one will see him EVER again. He's explaining he's going away. Its slightly insane to even say it

I do not think it is sane to believe that a person who died 2000 years ago will return.

Jesus is appealing to the world. Everyone without exception, he died for all. But all have to come freely to receive.

It would have been good if there was any evidence for what he said or promised. Why should I buy snake-oil? Nothing ever is free. You have to get your nose cut off if you want to see emperor's new clothes.

 

[John1.12]

I do agree people should come freely in to a belief

Absolutely. Faith is the prerequisite to be saved by Jesus. Not works, not a religion , not the Catholic Church, not meditation , channelling, praying 5 times s day , fasting , flogging the body, abstaining, following rules ect But it is ONLY through Jesus. A free gift by grace .