Blasphemy against God or prophet is fine, but this is not. We want revenge.

[firedragon]

I never mentioned Muslims, does the shoe fit?

Well, your aim is to fit it by hook or crook. Good attempt. Irrelevant though. Try harder in a thread. Good luck.

 

[firedragon]

BBC News presenters are not supposed to belittle or make fun of guests on their programme. So it's about manners......

Ah. Manners.

 

[firedragon]

Because it was a cheap trick to play on a guest, on the Queen, on the flag and more.

They do need to get sorted out over the way they treat guests to the news presentation. By all meansd interview people strongly, but if you need to laugh at where they live or work then maybe you need to be replaced.

Ah so you should not laugh at where you live or work but at others its fine. Thanks.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Perhaps Muslims see their faith as the pinnacle of such, or the only one, when this doesn't actually agree with reality, hence their sensitivity. And perhaps coming from being the newest major faith - so a little insecure?

Muslims Views on Interfaith Relations | Pew Research Center (pewforum.org)

 

[Kooky]

Perhaps Muslims see their faith as the pinnacle of such, or the only one, when this doesn't actually agree with reality, hence their sensitivity. And perhaps coming from being the newest major faith - so a little insecure?

Muslims Views on Interfaith Relations | Pew Research Center (pewforum.org)

If so, then how does that explain the brittle, insecure and therefore easily-offended nature of British flag pride?
The UK has been around for quite some time, after all.

 

[oldbadger]

Ah so you should not laugh at where you live or work but at others its fine. Thanks.

I don't laugh at others who are guests in my premises, firedragon, and I don't expect News Presenters to laugh at guests on their shows in any kind of sarcastic way.
Please don't pretend that you know what I laugh at myself. That's presumption.

 

[firedragon]

Perhaps Muslims see their faith as the pinnacle of such, or the only one, when this doesn't actually agree with reality, hence their sensitivity. And perhaps coming from being the newest major faith - so a little insecure?

Muslims Views on Interfaith Relations | Pew Research Center (pewforum.org)

Could be true with some Muslims.

 

[firedragon]

I don't laugh at others who are guests in my premises, firedragon, and I don't expect News Presenters to laugh at guests on their shows in any kind of sarcastic way.
Please don't pretend that you know what I laugh at myself. That's presumption.

You take it to mean you! Not so personal mate. It was general, just you said your comments generally.

Bottomline is you legitimised double standards. I mean hypocritical double standards. If it is your workplace or where you live, dont laugh at them, but others its alright. Super going.

 

[oldbadger]

You take it to mean you! Not so personal mate. It was general, just you said your comments generally.

You wrote that to me in the second person singular. Of course I took it to mean me!
But ok...

Bottomline is you legitimised double standards. I mean hypocritical double standards. If it is your workplace or where you live, dont laugh at them, but others its alright. Super going.

Rubbish.
I wrote nothing of the kind.
News presenters are expected to keep their opinions to themselves here, and to treat all guests with respect
And how I treated people at my place of work was exactly the same.

 

[firedragon]

You wrote that to me in the second person singular. Of course I took it to mean me!
But ok...


Rubbish.
I wrote nothing of the kind.
News presenters are expected to keep their opinions to themselves here, and to treat all guests with respect
And how I treated people at my place of work was exactly the same.

Just know something OB. One must always have the ability to have some compassion towards others. Sometimes people act like children and become over sensitive. But still, we should have some empathy as well. Also, we should never have double standards.

Thats the whole point of the OP.

I hope you understand. Cheers.

 

[Mock Turtle]

If so, then how does that explain the brittle, insecure and therefore easily-offended nature of British flag pride?
The UK has been around for quite some time, after all.

Only a few involved in the flag nonsense so not really an issue. Religions probably tend to improve on those existing ones, but perhaps blasphemy (the enforcement of such) is not actually an improvement, but might be seen as such, just as ex-communication and apostasy might be so seen.

 

[firedragon]

Only a few involved in the flag nonsense so not really an issue. Religions probably tend to improve on those existing ones, but perhaps blasphemy (the enforcement of such) is not actually an improvement, but might be seen as such, just as ex-communication and apostasy might be so seen.

One could bring a whole lot of baggage to any discussion to draw a lot of attention.

But its the subject of the OP that's in question.

 

[danieldemol]

Well, your aim is to fit it by hook or crook.

Wrong, so far you are the only one attempting to fit the shoe to Muslims, I haven't mentioned them in my opinion.

 

[firedragon]

Wrong, so far you are the only one attempting to fit the shoe to Muslims, I haven't mentioned them in my opinion.

).

 

[oldbadger]

Just know something OB. One must always have the ability to have some compassion towards others. Sometimes people act like children and become over sensitive.

BBC News presenters are expected to be professionals.
If they made fun of something that you hold dear, if anything, then I expect that you'd be singing a different song.

But still, we should have some empathy as well. Also, we should never have double standards.

Thats the whole point of the OP.

I hope you understand. Cheers.

Well I hope you take notice of your own lessons.

 

[firedragon]

Well I hope you take notice of your own lessons.

Always.

 

[firedragon]

BBC News presenters are expected to be professionals.
If they made fun of something that you hold dear, if anything, then I expect that you'd be singing a different song.

Exactly. Thats the whole point.

 

[Mock Turtle]

One could bring a whole lot of baggage to any discussion to draw a lot of attention.

But its the subject of the OP that's in question.

True, but the flag-waving nonsense is rather different, given that some countries have death sentences for blasphemy, and the flag wavers are just posturing as to their political or monarchistic beliefs (often being aligned too), and where not so many countries have punishments for even defacing the flag.

 

[firedragon]

True, but the flag-waving nonsense is rather different, given that some countries have death sentences for blasphemy,

So are you saying some hypocritical country having blasphemy is justification for someone else's?

 

[Mock Turtle]

So are you saying some hypocritical country having blasphemy is justification for someone else's?

No, just that the degree of offence seems to be disproportionate in the two cases, especially when blasphemy seems to make no sense to many. After all, such cannot affect the beliefs of any individual (presumably) and is more about perceived attacks and setting defensive barriers to such. Not so many are that worried about nationalistic flag-waving - since it is so common - and this doesn't tend to engender the hatred that blasphemy seems to do. I suspect that for many, the respect expected seems more like idolatry, which I'm sure is not the intent but could explain the degree of offence taken.