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Truth: either God exists or He don't.

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you for admitting that you don't know the truth or what the facts are. If you knew the truth, you wouldn't be open to receive lies as you have admitted above.
The fact that you are open to receive lies suggests that you don't know the truth. If you knew the truth, you wouldn't still be seeking it.
My door is closed to lies, they just bounce off me because the truth respells lies. But you are open because you don't know the truth, so any sharp shark can sell you snake oil

Nobody knows ALL of the truth. So it is always important to listen to new information because it can lead to truths you don't know.

Your door is closed to anything that disagrees with what you have chosen to have faith in. All that means is that you have a bias against new information and a bias against learning anything.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I walked away from university after a year of swallowing crap. Your not interested in facts or the truth, because you can't think outside of the invisible mind control prison your in

So you spent one year at a university, found out it was teaching you things you disagreed with, and left it.

That only shows you are the one that can't think outside of the 'mind control prison' you have always been in.

A wise person will always question their beliefs, understanding they can be mistaken, and that they are imperfect.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Why do you believe those verses refer to Jesus? Those do not refer to Jesus since Jesus said His work was finished here and He was not coming back to this world: (John 14:19, John 17:4, John 17:11, John 19:30, John 18:36)

Who is the Son of man who will come in the clouds of heaven?

It is not "going" to happen because it "already" happened. The thief has come and gone:

William Sears, Thief in the Night
So,you don't believe what the Bible says about the second coming. How will Jesus take the kingdoms of this world and destroy the kings unless He comes back to do it.
I'm not sure which sect or cult you belong to but they're not teaching you bible doctrine.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Incorrect. One also tests what one does not fully understand.

Your all caps shouting only tells us that you have no clue. It also looks as if you are very afraid. Knowledge can only set you free.
You're absolutely correct in saying "One also tests, what one doesn't fully understand" Let me encourage you to continue testing until you find the truth.
I'll be here waiting to embrace you and welcome you into the family of enlightened people who found the truth. We don't need to perform any more tests as we have found the answers, but please continue searching and don't stop until you find it. It will all be worth it in the end.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You're absolutely correct in saying "One also tests, what one doesn't fully understand" Let me encourage you to continue testing until you find the truth.
I'll be here waiting to embrace you and welcome you into the family of enlightened people who found the truth. We don't need to perform any more tests as we have found the answers, but please continue searching and don't stop until you find it. It will all be worth it in the end.
The problem is that you have not found the truth. Your ideas can and have been tested and they failed.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So,you don't believe what the Bible says about the second coming. How will Jesus take the kingdoms of this world and destroy the kings unless He comes back to do it.
I'm not sure which sect or cult you belong to but they're not teaching you bible doctrine.
What makes you think that she is a Christian? Why would another religion teach the errors of Christianity?
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
What you mean is that your mind is closed to new information that provides us with more knowledge.

So basically you are ignorant and remain ignorant.

Nothing to brag about there.

There are things that I know to be true, such as my computer existing. More knowledge provides me with more information about that computer. It gets rid of misconceptions that I might have had based off of ignorance and assumption.
Let me encourage you to continue seeking, as it's obvious by your own admission that you haven't found the truth yet. I hope you find it soon, I would also suggest you learn from those who posses the truth and knowledge about reality, that way you'll be liberated from darkness and confusion.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
And I will only believe that nothing is known for sure if they can prove that reality is an illusion.

You follow your imagination.

Ignorance as your solid foundation.
There are sharp snake oil salesman, who are quite capable of convincing you that reality is an illusion. they have been known to sell sand in the Sahara desert, so I'm sure they'll have no trouble selling their theory to you.

The sobering fact is, those who don't already poses the truth can be fooled into believing anything
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
You're absolutely correct in saying "One also tests, what one doesn't fully understand" Let me encourage you to continue testing until you find the truth.
I'll be here waiting to embrace you and welcome you into the family of enlightened people who found the truth. We don't need to perform any more tests as we have found the answers, but please continue searching and don't stop until you find it. It will all be worth it in the end.

The irony is that you've immersed yourself in one of the most truth-denying cults on the planet, that can only maintain its hold on people by feeding them distortions and misinformation (you're still ignoring Glen Morton's story, for example), and you seem terrified to learn, or even look at, the smallest fraction of the real truth. Anything that in any way contradicts the misinformation you hold on to so tightly, must be totally ignored (for example, people not believing that everything came from nothing; they must do, that's what you've been told by your cult).
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
So,you don't believe what the Bible says about the second coming. How will Jesus take the kingdoms of this world and destroy the kings unless He comes back to do it.
The Bible does not say that Jesus is coming a second time. The Bible does not say that Jesus will take the kingdoms of this world and destroy the kings. The Bible does say that Jesus is not coming back to this world.

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

I'm not sure which sect or cult you belong to but they're not teaching you bible doctrine.
I am not sure what Bible you are reading but it must be an edition other than the widely published English translations.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
I doubt that you studied the actual science as opposed to some version invented by some creationist.
To the contrary my dear Sir, I've had the privileged of evaluating what both sides have to say as opposed to yourself who has been indoctrinated with fantastic theories but no proof for any of them.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Nobody knows ALL of the truth. So it is always important to listen to new information because it can lead to truths you don't know.

Your door is closed to anything that disagrees with what you have chosen to have faith in. All that means is that you have a bias against new information and a bias against learning anything.
There's nothing new to learn, once you know the truth everything else is exposed for what it is. I'm not seeking new information, I rebuke anyone who comes to me with some new doctrine. God warned us about those who come to us with some new thing
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
To the contrary my dear Sir, I've had the privileged of evaluating what both sides have to say as opposed to yourself who has been indoctrinated with fantastic theories but no proof for any of them.

So why is it that you appear to know nothing at all about real science and real evidence?
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
So you spent one year at a university, found out it was teaching you things you disagreed with, and left it.

That only shows you are the one that can't think outside of the 'mind control prison' you have always been in.

A wise person will always question their beliefs, understanding they can be mistaken, and that they are imperfect.
My university professor told me that critical thinking is banned at secular universities. He said you are here to swallow whatever we feed you, then regurgitate it at exam time, you're not here to challenge our theories and hypothesis.
That told me everything I needed to know about secular science
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
The problem is that you have not found the truth. Your ideas can and have been tested and they failed.
It's easy to fail something if you test it by proxy. You trust other peoples tests and you have placed your faith in their conclusion.
That's a very serious and dangerous thing to do, your eternal security depends on what you do with the truth
 
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