When does the rapture take place?

[Moby]

Good morning folks!

Many brethren hold to a pretrib rapture as I use to as well. But after much deep study on the subject I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection/rapture does not take place until after the tribulation and posted all the scriptural evidence on a link on my website along with a simple timeline:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

Is there any scripture I missed?

 

[Altfish]

Good morning folks!

Many brethren hold to a pretrib rapture as I use to as well. But after much deep study on the subject I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection/rapture does not take place until after the tribulation and posted all the scriptural evidence on a link on my website along with a simple timeline:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

Is there any scripture I missed?

I think you need this ...

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia

 

[Moby]

Good morning brother!
There are no dates in that link bro. Just the proof that once the 7 years of tribulation has taken place there will be no resurrection/rapture until that 7 years has completed.
Please read the link and then lets chat!

 

[Kenny]

Good morning folks!

Many brethren hold to a pretrib rapture as I use to as well. But after much deep study on the subject I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection/rapture does not take place until after the tribulation and posted all the scriptural evidence on a link on my website along with a simple timeline:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

Is there any scripture I missed?

I think that the problem resides in holding onto just one rapture.

As Christians we see the suffering Messiah as well as the returning Messiah. Most of today's people of the Jewish faith only see the reigning Messiah and present the scriptures, that are true, that support their position.

Equally, I see a multiple resurrection/raptures whereas some only see a pre-trib - mid-trib or a post-trib resurrection/rapture.

So not that your scripture interpretation is necessarily wrong but simply one can only see a certain set that supports one's position at the expense of not seeing other scriptures..

 

[ChristineM]

Good morning folks!

Many brethren hold to a pretrib rapture as I use to as well. But after much deep study on the subject I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection/rapture does not take place until after the tribulation and posted all the scriptural evidence on a link on my website along with a simple timeline:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

Is there any scripture I missed?

I thought Harold Camping (and other's) had already done that


And welcome to RF

 

[Left Coast]

Good morning brother!
There are no dates in that link bro. Just the proof that once the 7 years of tribulation has taken place there will be no resurrection/rapture until that 7 years has completed.
Please read the link and then lets chat!

I think you'll find that many of our members don't believe the claims in the Bible in the first place, much less how to interpret passages from the most strange and highly symbolic texts therein.

 

[Moby]

I think that the problem resides in holding onto just one rapture.

As Christians we see the suffering Messiah as well as the returning Messiah. Most of today's people of the Jewish faith only see the reigning Messiah and present the scriptures, that are true, that support their position.

Equally, I see a multiple resurrection/raptures whereas some only see a pre-trib - mid-trib or a post-trib resurrection/rapture.

So not that your scripture interpretation is necessarily wrong but simply one can only see a certain set that supports one's position at the expense of not seeing other scriptures..

I have studied that thesis that there are multiple resurrection/raptures but found there is no such thing taught by a multiple of precepts. Please read the link and lets chat!

 

[Moby]

I thought Harold Camping (and other's) had already done that

And welcome to RF

Good morning sister!
There are no dates in that link sis. Just the proof that once the 7 years of tribulation has taken place there will be no resurrection/rapture until that 7 years has completed.
Please read the link and then lets chat!

 

[Moby]

I think you'll find that many of our members don't believe the claims in the Bible in the first place, much less how to interpret passages from the most strange and highly symbolic texts therein.

I understand! There are many on the earth presently who were never invited so your claim does not surprise me at all:

The Book of Life

 

[Kenny]

Good morning folks!

Many brethren hold to a pretrib rapture as I use to as well. But after much deep study on the subject I have come to the conclusion that the resurrection/rapture does not take place until after the tribulation and posted all the scriptural evidence on a link on my website along with a simple timeline:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

Is there any scripture I missed?

The Father is going to shorten the days of the last half of the tribulation called the “great tribulation” for the elect’s sake clearly proving we will be here through the entire tribulation:


There is a quantum leap here of interpretation.

God's elect have been here throughout the ages. For an example: 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,

So... that there is an elect during the Tribulation, I concur. But to say that because there are some of God's elect during the tribulation doesn't translate into that there wasn't a rapture. There are those who will be saved and become God's elect during the Tribulation period.

 

[ChristineM]

Good morning sister!
There are no dates in that link sis. Just the proof that once the 7 years of tribulation has taken place there will be no resurrection/rapture until that 7 years has completed.
Please read the link and then lets chat!

Harold Camping was particularly noisy and several media outlets reported his antics in full, google is your friend.

As for reading the link, does it actually provide anything worthwhile or new?

 

[Altfish]

Good morning brother!
There are no dates in that link bro. Just the proof that once the 7 years of tribulation has taken place there will be no resurrection/rapture until that 7 years has completed.
Please read the link and then lets chat!

There are plenty of dates in that link; since when has 31st Dec 2129 not been a date?
2021 and 2026 are also a range of dates

 

[Moby]

The Father is going to shorten the days of the last half of the tribulation called the “great tribulation” for the elect’s sake clearly proving we will be here through the entire tribulation:


There is a quantum leap here of interpretation.

God's elect have been here throughout the ages. For an example: 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,

So... that there is an elect during the Tribulation, I concur. But to say that because there are some of God's elect during the tribulation doesn't translate into that there wasn't a rapture. There are those who will be saved and become God's elect during the Tribulation period.

Yes I totally agree there will be millions who God chose from the foundation of the world to live during the great tribulation and become believers and endure until their end and be resurrected/raptured after the full 7 years are completed and the "day of the Lord" commences which I prove in that link.

 

[Moby]

Harold Camping was particularly noisy and several media outlets reported his antics in full, google is your friend.

As for reading the link, does it actually provide anything worthwhile or new?

Please read it sis and lets see what our Father reveals through His Word!

 

[Moby]

There are plenty of dates in that link; since when has 31st Dec 2129 not been a date?
2021 and 2026 are also a range of dates

Please copy the part of that link and paste it here where I am saying there is a specific event mentioned in the bible as occurring on that date?

 

[Altfish]

Please copy the part of that link and paste it here where I am saying there is a specific event mentioned in the bible as occurring on that date?

Good grief, stop being lazy; I gave you a link, I gave you dates .. have a look yourself it is not a rambling book, it is a couple of tabulated wiki pages.

 

[Moby]

Good grief, stop being lazy; I gave you a link, I gave you dates .. have a look yourself it is not a rambling book, it is a couple of tabulated wiki pages.

I am sorry if I confused you bro!
I am saying there are no dates in my link:

The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

I know the world wide web is full of date setters that have come and gone but I pay no attention to them.

 

[Kenny]

Yes I totally agree there will be millions who God chose from the foundation of the world to live during the great tribulation and become believers and endure until their end and be resurrected/raptured after the full 7 years are completed and the "day of the Lord" commences which I prove in that link.

Yes, but you missed the point entirely.

Your statement went from "there will the 'elect' during the tribulation" to "thus we will be there". If you start with a premise that one means the other (when it isn't established) then the whole of your premise is based on a faulty foundation.

 

[ChristineM]

Please read it sis and lets see what our Father reveals through His Word!

No thanks, i am quite happy without the preaching. I provided camping for your edification, thats enough for me

 

[Moby]

Yes, but you missed the point entirely.

Your statement went from "there will the 'elect' during the tribulation" to "thus we will be there". If you start with a premise that one means the other (when it isn't established) then the whole of your premise is based on a faulty foundation.

The "elect" includes those in the Lord from the first death of Abel and includes every believer from then until the last soul becomes a believer during the tribulation. Most will have died on the earth and be resurrected but a very small number of those believers will be alive until the coming of our Lord but they will not precede the resurrection of the bodies of those saints and then the rapture at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye:

1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (54) But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (17) then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (18) Wherefore comfort one another with these words.