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Christianity vs Baha'i

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Skywalker

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Trailblazer said:
Do you mean they will see the physical body of Jesus with their eyes?
I hope you know that most people did not recognize Jesus for a long time after His first coming so why would it be any different at His second coming?

“Most scholars of Christian origins tend to exaggerate the size and importance of the early Christian church. This is understandable in the light of the discipline’s intense concentration on the New Testament texts. By confining ourselves in particular to the letters of Paul, the Gospels and Acts, it is all too easy to create a limited and false impression of the ancient world and the place of the Christians within it. Yet the reality is that for all of the first century the Christians were a tiny and insignificant socio-religious movement within the Graeco-Roman world (Hopkins 1998:195-196). Christianity did of course grow considerably in later centuries and it eventually became the religion of the Roman empire, but we should take care not to retroject its later size and importance into the initial decades of its existence.

“Just how small was the Christian movement in the first century is clear from the calculations of the sociologist R Stark (1996:5-7; so too Hopkins 1998:192-193).Stark begins his analysis with a rough estimation of six million Christians in the Roman Empire (or about ten percent of the total population) at the start of the fourth century... There were 1,000 Christians in the year 40, 1,400 Christians in 50, 1,960 Christians in 60, 2,744 Christians in 70, 3,842 Christians in 80, 5,378 Christians in 90 and 7,530 Christians at the end of the first century.

These figures are very suggestive, and reinforce the point that in its initial decades the Christian movement represented a tiny fraction of the ancient world.”

How many Jews became Christians in the first century?
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They will see Jesus in all of His glory. He will come in the clouds. The first Christians were Jewish. Look up Jewish Christians on Wikipedia.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Acts 7:55 is interesting.

"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God:

Regards Tony
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It sure is interesting, saw the glory of God, and Jesus

That means that any prophecies that refer to the glory of God cannot be about Jesus.
That eliminates a lot of verses that Christians believe are about Jesus.
 
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Skywalker

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Trailblazer said:
It sure is interesting, saw the glory of God, and Jesus

That means that any prophecies that refer to the glory of God cannot be about Jesus.
That eliminates a lot of verses that Christians believe are about Jesus.
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The verse doesn't say the glory of God and Jesus. The verse mentions seeing the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. There's a difference between the nuances of both expressions.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Skywalker said:
Where does the Bible mention the Messiah returning in 1844?
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The Bab was not the Messiah, He was the Gate by which Baha'u'llah would enter nine years later.
The Bab was the one who came to announce the coming of Baha'u'llah, who was the Messiah of the end times.
The Bab came to prepare the way for a new Divine Cycle on earth.

 
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Skywalker

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Trailblazer said:
The Bab was not the Messiah, He was the Gate by which Baha'u'llah would enter nine years later.
The Bab was the one who came to announce the coming of Baha'u'llah, who was the Messiah of the end times.
The Bab came to prepare the way for a new Divine Cycle on earth.

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Why would the Messiah need the Bab to enter?
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Skywalker said:
The verse doesn't say the glory of God and Jesus. The verse mentions seeing the glory of God and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. There's a difference between the nuances of both expressions.
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Acts 7:55
"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God:

the glory of God, and Jesus means that the glory of God is separate from Jesus.

Bahá'u'lláh, which means the glory of God in Arabic, was born Mirza Husayn Ali in 1817 into one of Persia's most noble and privileged families.Sep 28, 2009

Religions - Bahai: Bahá'u'lláh - BBC
 
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Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Trailblazer said:
Acts 7:55
"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God:

the glory of God, and Jesus means that the glory of God is separate from Jesus.

Bahá'u'lláh, which means the glory of God in Arabic, was born Mirza Husayn Ali in 1817 into one of Persia's most noble and privileged families.Sep 28, 2009

Religions - Bahai: Bahá'u'lláh - BBC
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The glory of God, and Jesus means the glory of God in his fullness and Jesus in his humanity being in heaven.
 
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Skywalker

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Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Jesus said Elijah always comes first, to prepare the way.

That in this age, the Day of God, that Elijah is a Manifestation of God, is a bounty we are yet to appreciate.

Regards Tony
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John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus and he wasn't a manifestation of God. What do you think the day of God is?
 
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