Is Trinity in the Bible?

[may]

Jesus is the only- begotten SON OF GOD...........JOHN 3;16-17 and the world is to be saved through him.
amen (John 5:18-19; 3:14-18)

yes ,as the bible teaches us Jesus is the only-begotten son of God ,
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. JOHN 3;16-17 and that is what Jesus himself told the Jews
On this account, indeed, the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.John 5;18 Jesus did not claim to be equal to God , he just told the truth and that was he was Gods son John 14;28 the Jews claimed that he was equal to God but that was their thoughts not Jesus thoughts.
Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God phillipians 2;6
(Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
(Hebrews 1:3) He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places............. yes Jesus was a spirit form in the heavens before he came to earth, he had a pre-human life in the heavenswith his father Jehovah , he was in spirit form just like God is . and when he went back he was a spirit form again . but he never ever claimed to be equal to God .even thou others said he did . if we listen to what Jesus himself taught we cant go wrong.
he did not claim to be God. Had he claimed to be God, then the Jews would have been right in stoning him for blasphemy. But Jesus argues that he claimed to be less than God.
do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son? John 10;36.........yes people think many things that are not inline with what Jesus taught.

 

[logician]

One shouldn't believe everything they read.

 

[writer]

461 John 5;18 Jesus did not claim to be equal to God ,
Yes He did. John 5:18; 10:36; 8:58; 20:28-29; Rev 22:12-13, 16; 1:8; etc.
As did His apostles claim Jesus Christ is God. John 1:1-2, 14; 5:18; 20:28; Titus 2:13; Philip 2:6; Col 2:9; Heb 7:3; 1:3, 8-9; Mt 1:23; Lk 1:32; etc
As did His prophets. Zechariah 14:3-4, 9 (cf Acts1:11-12); 2:8-10; Isaiah 6:8; 7:11-9:6; Daniel 7:9, 13, 22; Micah 5:2; Proverbs 8:23; Genesis 1:26-27; etc.

he just told the truth
Not only He told the truth, He (I Am) is the Truth. John 14:6; 17:3. Incarnate

and that was he was Gods son John 14;28
God's only begotten (and firstborn) Son is God. John 5:18. God doesn't beget something other than Himself

the Jews claimed that he was equal to God
Exactly the opposite. The opposing Jews (exactly like Arianism, Islam, Jehovah Witnessism) rejected and denied Jesus is Jehovah (John 5:18; 8:59; 10:33; Matthew 26:63-66; 1 Corinthians 2:8) in the flesh.
John the apostle wrote John 5:18. Not "the Jews" there

but that was their thoughts not Jesus thoughts.
Being Son of God, and Son of Man, Jesus not only thought He was Jehovah. He knew it. And said it. John 8:24, 28, 58; 20:28-29.
As did His apostles. As did His prophets.
As do i

he never ever claimed to be equal to God...he did not claim to be God.
Those are lies, at least falsehoods

Had he claimed to be God,
He did. John 8:24, 28, 58; 10:36, 38; 20:28-29; 5:17.
As did and do His apostles. As did and do His prophets. As do i

then the Jews would have been right in stoning him for blasphemy.
Ethically-speaking, spiritually-speaking, that's exactly what the teaching of Jehovah Witnessism, Islam, and Christ-rejecting Judaism darkly do. Today

But Jesus argues that he claimed to be less than God...I said, I am God’s Son? John 10;36
The Son of God isn't less than God in that sense. Since "I'm in My Father and My Father's in Me" John 10:38; 8:16. 29; 14:9-11, 20; 17:21, 23.
"All the fulness of the Godhead dwells in Him bodily" Colossians 2:9.
"If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" John 14:9.
"Before Abraham came into being, I Am" 8:58.
"Emmanuel: God with us" Isaiah 7:14; Mt 1:23.
"A child, a Son, His name shall be called Mighty God, Eternal Father" Isaiah 9:6.
"He called God His own Father, making Himself equal with God" Jn 5:18.
"Jehovah will go forth, His feet will stand in that day on the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem" Zech 14:3-4.
"God's in Christ" 2 Corinthians 5:19; Ephesians 4:32.
"This Jesus will come in the same way as you beheld Him going into heaven. Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which's near Jerusalem" Acts 1:11-12.

Jehovah Witnessism, current Judaism, and Islam, an "unpure trinity" in this regard, all have a God who didn't become flesh, who wouldn't become man, who remains distant, or not ultimately close. And who only gives them things. Like brothels in heaven, or oases on earth, or walls. Kinda like Santa Claus. The God of the Bible gives His mankind Himself, as a in man, and as a man

 

[logician]

Actually, the biblical Jesus never existed, there is not one scintilla of hard evidence supporting the existence of such a man.

 

[writer]

a laff

 

[may]

God's only begotten (and firstborn) is God


The God of the Bible gives His mankind Himself, as a in man, and as a man

the bible itself tells us that Jesus is Gods only begotten son.
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. John 3;16-17................yes as the bible tells us God gave us his son , if we stick to the bible and what it teaches we cant go wrong .

 

[Ronald]

a laff

Dear Sir;
You would do good to recheck your scriptures, the first two are "So off Base", in other words lying lips!
Nu 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfil it?
The Messiah is the sent one, the Messiah, the son of God, born of a woman.
All who believe in God coming to earth as a man, effectively call Him a liar!

What do you, who believe in a man-god/trinity, get that we who do not share your belief, do not get? What scripture can you quote that props that reward up?

I have said this before, "you may believe in a triune God and not suffer any penalty, but if you are wrong there are many scriptures that say how great the punishment is for teaching false doctrine. Your call! I'll stick to teaching what is P'shat/simple meaning of scripture.
I certainly do not wish to keep company with the first Adder!

Shalom

 

[writer]

467 Dear Sir; You would do good to recheck your scriptures, the first two are "So off Base", in other words lying lips!
Dear Ronald. I find John 5:18 and 10:36 not to be lies; nor to be so off base, nor to be off base in the least. Rather, i find them, as the rest of the Bible: on base. True. And u: off

Nu 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should repent.
God was not man. In Numbers 23:19. By birth (Son of man). 23:19; Genesis 18:1-2; 32:24, 26, 28, 30. Nor deceitful, w/ sin. 23:19.
He became one of us around 1500 years later.
As recorded in Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:38; John 1:14; 5:18; 8:58; 10:36, 38; Romans 1:3; 8:3; Galatians 4:4; Philippians 2:7; Colossians 1:19; 2:9; 1 Timothy 1:16; Titus 2:10-11; Hebrews 1:2; 2:14; 1John 1:2; 2:22-24; 3:8; 4:9, 14-15; 5:10-13, 20; 2 John 9; and Revelation 1:8; 22:13, 16; etc.
As pictured and prophesied by His prophets in their Scriptures. Zechariah 2:8-10; Isaiah 7:11-9:7; Micah 5:2; Malachi 4:2; Leviticus 2:4; Psalm 40:6-8; etc.
A man without sin, deceit. John 8:44; 14:30; 3:14; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Romans 8:3; 1 John 1:5; 3:8-9.
As John wrote "God is light" (1 John 1:5) and His Lord Jesus said
"I am the light of the world" John 8:12.
"The people sitting in darkness have seen a great light; and to those sitting in the region and shadow of death, to them light has arisen" Matthew 4:13-16

Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfil it?
The Messiah is the sent one, the Messiah, the son of God, born of a woman.
Amen. As Zechariah wrote "Thus says Jehovah, After the glory He has sent Me...Jehovah of hosts has sent Me...I am coming, declares Jehovah" (2:8-10).
And coming a second time. Hebrews 9:28; Acts 1:11-12; Zechariah 12:6-9; 14:3-4, 9.
The same very I Am in flesh who came His first time.

All who believe in God coming to earth as a man, effectively call Him a liar!
To the contrary, Ronald. Respectfully i call u liar. Pleze, no offence

 

[Ronald]

Dear writer;
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Not the words of Yeshua, but man!
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
I am the Son of God? is not saying I am God!

So who is a liar?
Only God can change a mind set in concrete!

My final words to you until God opens you mind to the "Truth!"

Shalom

 

[writer]

and vice versa:
"all Scripture's God-breathed" 2 Tim 3:16
For no prophecy was ever borne by the will o' man, but men spoke from God, being borne by the Holy Spirit.
Concerin' this salvation he prophets, who prophesied concernin' the grace that was to come to you, searching into what time or maner of time the Spirit o' Christ in them was making clear, testifying beforehand of the sufferin's o' Christ and the glories after these.
The gospel o' God, which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning His Son, who came out of the seed of David according to the flesh, [His humanity] designated Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness out of the resurrection of the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

469 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
I am the Son of God? is not saying I am God!
So who is a liar?
Evidently u. Dear sir. However ignorantly, or unwillingly.
Jesus Christ, in John 10:36, didn't ask "Am I the Son of God?"
He asked His deity-deniers (like dear Ronald) "DO YOU SAY 'YOU ARE BLASPHEMING' because I said I'm the Son of God?"

Only God can change a mind set in concrete!
Amen. Lord have mercy on dear Ronald

 

[Colabomb]

Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John would have hindered him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? But Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it now: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffereth him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway from the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him; and lo, a voice out of the heavens, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
(Mat 3:13-17)

 

[Katzpur]

Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to the Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John would have hindered him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? But Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it now: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffereth him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway from the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him; and lo, a voice out of the heavens, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
(Mat 3:13-17)

Well, that's pretty good proof of the Godhead. What do you see as missing in the scriptures that needed to be clarified by the Nicene Creed?

 

[BM5]

the bible itself tells us that Jesus is Gods only begotten son.
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. John 3;16-17................yes as the bible tells us God gave us his son , if we stick to the bible and what it teaches we cant go wrong .

Like are you putting me on May or what ??????

Isn't it your belief that Jesus is Michael the Archangel ?? So how can He be the ONLY BEGOTTON SON???

 

[may]

Like are you putting me on May or what ??????

Isn't it your belief that Jesus is Michael the Archangel ?? So how can He be the ONLY BEGOTTON SON???

Jesus was the only one created by Jehovah alone , everything else was created through Jesus . Jesus is the first-born of creation he was the first one to be created by his father Jehovah , the only one. and yes Jesus is a warrior king for Jehovah the name michael means .....who is like God
THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—"Who Is Like God?"
the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth.

 

[BM5]

Jesus was the only one created by Jehovah alone , everything else was created through Jesus . Jesus is the first-born of creation he was the first one to be created by his father Jehovah , the only one. and yes Jesus is a warrior king for Jehovah the name michael means .....who is like God
THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—"Who Is Like God?"
the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth.

May, there might be a difference between begotton and made.

 

[!Fluffy!]

this thread keeps turning up like a bad penny, as my grandma would say.

 

[TruthInCatholocism]

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and ofthe Son and ofthe Holy Spirit [Matthew 28:19].

The Term Trinity Is Not used in the Bible, But the mention of God with many parts is mentioned throughout the whole Bible!

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all [2 Corinthians 13:14].

To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].

Why would a Write of any sort take there time to mention Many parts of One god Over and over if it had no Validity?

Think about the text Logically

here we see the three Persons of the Godhead in an unmistakable way.

The word Trinity is used Merly By definition

3: the cardinal number that is the sum of one and one and one
Trio: three people considered as a unit

A simple term to describe what God Clealy is: Triune

Does the term have to be mentioned in the Bible for it to be a true definition?

i dont think so...

Many words that exist in the english language didnt or dont exist in many languages

So possibly if the Word triune existed During the Writing of the Bible then perhaps the term would have been used

and to May(jehova witness in general): Jesus is God On Earth..A form of god.. That is unmistakable.. It is the Sole purpose of the old testiment.. Not to belive this.. is To deny the truth of the christian faith...

Simple enouph id say

 

[*Paul*]

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and ofthe Son and ofthe Holy Spirit [Matthew 28:19].

The Term Trinity Is Not used in the Bible, But the mention of God with many parts is mentioned throughout the whole Bible!

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all [2 Corinthians 13:14].

To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].

Why would a Write of any sort take there time to mention Many parts of One god Over and over if it had no Validity?

Think about the text Logically

here we see the three Persons of the Godhead in an unmistakable way.

The word Trinity is used Merly By definition

3: the cardinal number that is the sum of one and one and one
Trio: three people considered as a unit

A simple term to describe what God Clealy is: Triune

Does the term have to be mentioned in the Bible for it to be a true definition?

i dont think so...

Many words that exist in the english language didnt or dont exist in many languages

So possibly if the Word triune existed During the Writing of the Bible then perhaps the term would have been used

and to May(jehova witness in general): Jesus is God On Earth..A form of god.. That is unmistakable.. It is the Sole purpose of the old testiment.. Not to belive this.. is To deny the truth of the christian faith...

Simple enouph id say

I agree.
Not bad for a Catholic.

 

[TruthInCatholocism]

Thank you, I try (it helps to have 3 certs in theology )

 

[Ronald]

http://www.betemunah.org/

The "word" came out of - Y - H - V - H - before the "word" became flesh and dwelt among us.
LBV Matt.11:19 But brilliant men like you can justify your every inconsistency. (g) Literally, "Wisdom is justified by her children."

Shalom u'vrachot/Peace and blessings