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There are many interesting NON-RELIGIOUS-FORUMS out there on internet. Atheists come on RF to:
- To teach theists ?
- Or, they have room for the existence of God somewhere in their heart ?
Great question, but no, the answers aren't as pretty as the two you suggest. The truthful answer is that atheism is inherently "aggressive", so atheists look for a battle field where they may attack believers. Atheists cannot live without believers, for the attack on belief and believers is the assertive act that gives them their sense of existence. It is unavoidable therefore, that they come to places where believers congregate, such as a religious forum.
The converse is, of course, not true at all: believers can exist fine without atheists because they don't have the slightest need of atheists to define themselves. This isn't just a behavioral observation; it goes all the way down to the ontological difference between belief and atheism. Belief (in the religious sense) is a cognitive mode, while atheism is a thought construct. The mistake that atheists make is to assume that belief is a thought construct as well, and that therefore atheism can be pitched against belief, and possibly emerge victorious. But atheism cannot battle belief, in the same way that sound cannot drown out color. The two lie in different domains.
Of course atheists will not (and cannot) recognize their own aggressiveness. Since they are alienated from the cognitive mode that is belief, they live out of thought constructs only. In that unintuitive, overly mental world, artifical notions such as "civility", "reasonableness", and "scientificness" become the standards for "kindness". And thus the atheist obtains his excuse: "I am not aggressive at all, I have a right to be here (i.e. on the religious platform) because I am civil and reasonable."
The more puzzling thing is this: Why do believers feel that must tolerate atheists among themselves? If someone who disliked tennis joined a tennis club and started holding forth about his dislike, he'd be removed from the club. No debates, no violence, no big scenes, just excluded. But strangely believers can't seem to find the courage to do this. Or as an alternative explanation, perhaps we should wonder if the ones who run these "religious forums" are themselves not believers?
There are many interesting NON-RELIGIOUS-FORUMS out there on internet. Atheists come on RF to:
- To teach theists ?
- Or, they have room for the existence of God somewhere in their heart ?
When the most important election on the planet is heavily influenced by whether or not you believe in a god (in particular the Christian one) it is important that non-believers understand religions and their followers.
Great question, but no, the answers aren't as pretty as the two you suggest. The truthful answer is that atheism is inherently "aggressive", so atheists look for a battle field where they may attack believers. Atheists cannot live without believers, for the attack on belief and believers is the assertive act that gives them their sense of existence. It is unavoidable therefore, that they come to places where believers congregate, such as a religious forum.
The converse is, of course, not true at all: believers can exist fine without atheists because they don't have the slightest need of atheists to define themselves. This isn't just a behavioral observation; it goes all the way down to the ontological difference between belief and atheism. Belief (in the religious sense) is a cognitive mode, while atheism is a thought construct. The mistake that atheists make is to assume that belief is a thought construct as well, and that therefore atheism can be pitched against belief, and possibly emerge victorious. But atheism cannot battle belief, in the same way that sound cannot drown out color. The two lie in different domains.
Of course atheists will not (and cannot) recognize their own aggressiveness. Since they are alienated from the cognitive mode that is belief, they live out of thought constructs only. In that unintuitive, overly mental world, artifical notions such as "civility", "reasonableness", and "scientificness" become the standards for "kindness". And thus the atheist obtains his excuse: "I am not aggressive at all, I have a right to be here (i.e. on the religious platform) because I am civil and reasonable."
The more puzzling thing is this: Why do believers feel that must tolerate atheists among themselves? If someone who disliked tennis joined a tennis club and started holding forth about his dislike, he'd be removed from the club. No debates, no violence, no big scenes, just excluded. But strangely believers can't seem to find the courage to do this. Or as an alternative explanation, perhaps we should wonder if the ones who run these "religious forums" are themselves not believers?
If religious people never would have tolerated me back when I was an atheist, I might have gotten such a bad impression of religion that I never cared to study the scriptures with an open mind and eventually become a believer myself.
While such atheists do exist, it is more the exception than the rule.
Spoken with true passive aggression.
Oh, and for the record, I'm not an atheist.
If that's so, it should be easy to name some self-proclaimed atheists who are not anti-religionists. Can you name some?
No, I speak with resentment, not passive aggression. There's a big difference. If I was signing up to atheist forums to denounce their views there, that'd be aggressive.
Perhaps you think you're not an atheist, while actually you are one. That wouldn't be exceptional.
Yup. They want to spread their theories. Some come to make fun of theistic theories.To teach theists ?
No. Politics and religion are not compatible.Religion is fascinating, and it also influences culture, politics, etc.
Neither would someone who runs out of logical arguments stating mistruths about someone they know absolutely nothing about. *shrugs*
There are many interesting NON-RELIGIOUS-FORUMS out there on internet. Atheists come on RF to:
- To teach theists ?
- Or, they have room for the existence of God somewhere in their heart ?
There are many interesting NON-RELIGIOUS-FORUMS out there on internet.
Atheists come on RF to:
- To teach theists ?
- Or, they have room for the existence of God somewhere in their heart ?
The truthful answer is that atheism is inherently "aggressive", so atheists look for a battle field where they may attack believers. Atheists cannot live without believers, for the attack on belief and believers is the assertive act that gives them their sense of existence. It is unavoidable therefore, that they come to places where believers congregate, such as a religious forum.
They do because they need NOT any evidence-of-existence to take interest in them.Why do non-politicians watch politics? Why are non-scientists interested in science? Why do non-players watch sports?
Perhaps someone might have asked this before. But, this doesn't mean I MUST search the whole forum before posting any question.The question has been asked many times before. Were you copying?