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Multiculturalism Is Chaos

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
["By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."--Genesis 10, KJV]

If that is an argument its too terse for me to follow. I'm looking at Genesis 10 and 11. I notice that the division is made with language and not some other trait. Is it therefore a sin to learn a second language? Why isn't it? The LORD doesn't change their hair or give them an extra finger or some other physical feature -- just changes the language. Why?

You also need to answer the question of why they need to spread out instead of remain together, or you can't be sure whether its for the purpose of make multiple cultures or just populating all of the land.

I don't see it as language alone, because language used to be tied to body type. Take the Hatti and Hurrians, vs the Amorites... both lived practically side by side... but no one could confuse the big red-headed Amorites with the Hitto-Hurrian, either by language or body-type.

Be fruitful and populate the Earth. The more fruitful had to move sooner, colony by colony; and with that came language change. Whenever Gen10 was written, it had to be when those nations were where they were. And at that time, there were Javan and Gomer colonies... more fruitful?

[...If someone comes to your country with a different religion and laws, and demands that you allow them to practice their religion according to their laws, their demands will overthrow your own laws and your own religion. In effect, their alien culture will replace your own...]

Maybe over a long period of time, yes. It can happen. It doesn't happen in a single lifetime.

Yeah, it does. Depending upon which part of the country you live in. If you're a townie, you may not see it as the leaps and bounds it actually is, because you're used to seeing people you don't know.

[MultiCulturalism is the basis of civil war.]

One notable exception is the US civil war which has a lot more to do with industry, wealth, climate and a contest of political strength than with culture clashes. The different states have different laws, yes; but they are all basically English speaking American states, generally church-going, generally sharing similar values.

It had to do with Industry vs Farming: The Farms were attacked. That left Industry in control of the working class en masse. With the War and then the Farms went much of the nobility: The First Reason for the Attack. With the loss of the ruling class which was traditionally the nobility, people with money gotten any way at all moved in and took the reins.

It's not a joke that American Nobility is Actors and Athletes. It's still about genetics, but with a different set of genes on top. Eternally sad.

Worse. If you look at war clinically, it's designed to weed out the best breeding stock... leaving poorer quality breeders to create the next generation. And with women going to war, the problem becomes acute. The Jackal moves in for the kill. And here we are today.

You say that everybody's educated now. I say the reverse has happened. The whole dialogue is being controlled.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Aye, seems I was too harsh in my conclusions about your conclusion. I apologize for calling you a trolling sheep and saying your idea was stupid. It was unfair and unkind. You are of course welcome to wish others were not amongst you particular culture and welcome to wish you could keep out the others. I just didn't think that will work very well in our multicultural world we all now live in together. Good day.
How very gracious of you!
I am sorry for causing you to have to be sorry.

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But Antifa is at the door, and we all know what that means.
If they can call even America fascist, they want no laws at all.

They are de-policing America.
Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Again, the Jackal runs.

And America... called in to help her allies,
bears the brunt of the hatred which is now aimed at her... not at her allies.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Children are not born racist. Adults indoctrinate them with it.

From the time they notice their father's face, they memorize it; and then look for those features in their own face, when they become able.
From the time they enter school, they become children of the world. They forget their father's face.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
From the time they notice their father's face, they memorize it; and then look for those features in their own face, when they become able.
From the time they enter school, they become children of the world. They forget their father's face.
Not really. My mom was white and my dad is black. I didn't favor either while growing up. I certainly didn't look for my dad's face for security!
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Multiculturalism Is Chaos

"Culture definition is - the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; the characteristic features of everyday life."--Merriam-Webster

The 7-Headed Red Dragon of Babylon called Tiamet is primordial Chaos. Her son is Enki who is portrayed exactly the same as Seth-Typhon of Egypt. Typhon, returned, is Typhoea the Chimera. The Chimera is several animals all rolled into one multi-life-form. Daniel and Revelation describe this Beast, and tell us all what will happen to the woman who rides it.

MultiCulturalism is the basis of civil war.

If someone comes to your country with a different religion and laws, and demands that you allow them to practice their religion according to their laws, their demands will overthrow your own laws and your own religion. In effect, their alien culture will replace your own... city by city... block by block. MultiCulture is a lie, because your culture will no longer exist when all that remains is alien.

MultiCulturalism is literally anti-God.

"By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."--Genesis 10, KJV

The word translated as "families" in Strong's Concordance is mishpachah; " a family, i.e. circle of relatives; figuratively, a class (of persons), a species (of animals) or sort (of things); by extens. a tribe or people:--family, kind(-red)."

Chronicon of Hippolytus
56. The Sons of Japheth the third son of Noah.
57. Gomer from whom are the Cappadocians.
58. Magog from whom are the Celts and Galatians.
59. Madai from whom are the Medes.
60. Javan from whom are the Greeks and Ionians.
61. Tubal from whom are the Thessalians.
62. Meschech from whom are the Illyrians.
63. Tiras from whom are the Thracians.
64. Kittim from whom are the Macedonians.
65. The sons of Gomer the son of Japheth the son of Noah.
66. Ashkenaz, from whom are the Sarmatians.
67. {Riphath} from whom are the Rhodians.
68. Togarmah from whom are the Armenians.
69. The sons of Javan the son of Japheth the son of Noah.
70. Elisa from whom are the Sicilians.
71. Tarshish from whom are the Iberians and the Tyrrhenians.
72. And the Citians from whom are the Romans and the Latins.
79. When looking to the north, these are the nations of Japheth scattered from Media as far as the Western Ocean.

Keeping in mind that Celts meant no more to Hippolytus and Caesar than it does to modern Universities, Celts were considered anybody who spoke a Celtic Language... Germanic peoples learned Celtic in order to be overlords to the Celtic countries they invaded... prior to bringing their wives and children who spoke Germanic languages. But place-names and DNA say the small tanned Celts are from Iberia.
Save me from small people and their baseless fears.

I live in the most multicultural city in the world (according to the UN), and we're doing just dandy. Learning to get along is just a matter of giving up your own egoist sense of superiority, and finding something good about anyone you happen to meet.

And multiculturalism also makes for fabulous dining possibilities.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
My mother used to say (google-translated from Dutch)
....."2 beliefs on 1 pillow, the devil sleeps between them"
I always try to find good everywhere and in everyone, so I came up with
....."2 different religious beings which are non-judgmental and sleep on one pillow, then the Devil sleeps (is not there)

But back to reality, quite a few religions are into proselytizing, hence they are quite judgmental, hence "The Devil has party time with them"

So, partly I agree

Multi Culturalism is not the problem
The main problem is arrogance + "believe that my way is the highway, also for you" + Imposing one's religion on others + ....

Your mother is right, in my not-humble-enough opinion.
Some people consider witchcraft and satanism to be religions.
But some which are worse are much more hazardous to your spirit.

You can't go through life being non-judgmental. Without even noticing it.
1. It's our nature and instinct and self-preservation to make judgments. This is our soul.
2. What we do next is a matter of teaching and intelligence. This is our genes.
3. If your Creator tells you not to kill, put down the sword that instinct told you to take up. This is our spirit.
These things tell us whether or not Multi-Culturalism has any place in us.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Not really. My mom was white and my dad is black. I didn't favor either while growing up. I certainly didn't look for my dad's face for security!

You mistake the meaning of forgetting your father's face. In his face is his character, the older he got, written large. If you honor your father, you will follow his lead, not the lead of the teacher who is taught by God alone knows who. When you forget your father's face you despise his teachings.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
You mistake the meaning of forgetting your father's face. In his face is his character, the older he got, written large. If you honor your father, you will follow his lead, not the lead of the teacher who is taught by God alone knows who. When you forget your father's face you despise his teachings.
I hate my dad (or I'm now at the place where I feel a sort of black numbness towards him), so what's your point?
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Europa came from Phoenicia and gave her name to Europe. Was she a Semite? Probably not.
There are no "Semites".
Semitic is a linguistic group, it refers to a group of languages with common characteristics and origins, not to any particular ethnicity.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Save me from small people and their baseless fears.

I live in the most multicultural city in the world (according to the UN), and we're doing just dandy. Learning to get along is just a matter of giving up your own egoist sense of superiority, and finding something good about anyone you happen to meet.

And multiculturalism also makes for fabulous dining possibilities.

Blessed are the meek.

On a one to one basis, that may work for you for a while. But when the Jackals are controlling the government, you'll regret your expenditure of unearned trust.

Trust no one doesn't mean that you think you're superior; it means that you value the life you've been given and honor Creator God. Can you tell at a glance who is godly? What else is good? Food? Life is more than What shall I eat and where shall I sleep. The time is coming when you will be asked whom do you serve. If your answer is fellow man, you shall have more company than you expect, and none that you want.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
I hate my dad (or I'm now at the place where I feel a sort of black numbness towards him), so what's your point?

Ok then, the face of your mother... hopefully, some human loved you and taught you good things. [Our Father which art in Heaven is truly the face of your Father.]
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Blessed are the meek.

On a one to one basis, that may work for you for a while. But when the Jackals are controlling the government, you'll regret your expenditure of unearned trust.

Trust no one doesn't mean that you think you're superior; it means that you value the life you've been given and honor Creator God. Can you tell at a glance who is godly? What else is good? Food? Life is more than What shall I eat and where shall I sleep. The time is coming when you will be asked whom do you serve. If your answer is fellow man, you shall have more company than you expect, and none that you want.
Sorry, but I don't buy any of that. I can't even be bothered living in fear of threats like "the time is coming..." You don't know, and I don't know. But I have history to guide me -- and that's always been a hugely more reliable guide that baseless beliefs.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Ok then, the face of your mother... hopefully, some human loved you and taught you good things. [Our Father which art in Heaven is truly the face of your Father.]
I do love my mom very much, but what has that to do with discriminating against others?
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Childish perspectives like yours is what teaches children to grow up with bigotry and biases against people who happen to have superficial differences. So sad that you want to focus in on minor differences and ignore how much each and every human being has in common. Until people like you stop teaching your children to distrust and consider anyone who happens to be a little different a danger we're never going to learn how to live in peace and harmony.

Unless you become as a little child you will never see the Kingdom of Heaven.

Humans have almost everything in common with pigs and cows. Nature teaches us that it's the differences that matter.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
1. It's our nature and instinct and self-preservation to make judgments. This is our soul.
I go through life using my discrimination. I do not judge "the person", but I judge "the actions of the person"
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Sorry, but I don't buy any of that. I can't even be bothered living in fear of threats like "the time is coming..." You don't know, and I don't know. But I have history to guide me -- and that's always been a hugely more reliable guide that baseless beliefs.

Then we're in agreement, because I don't have much in common with evangelicals or humanists. History repeats. Learn from both sides of the conflict, what happened in the world's wars.

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There Are Three Types of People: Those Who Make Things Happen, Those Who Watch Things Happen, and Those Who Wonder What Happened.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
I do love my mom very much, but what has that to do with discriminating against others?

"From the time they notice their mother's face, they memorize it; and then look for those features in their own face, when they become able.
From the time they enter school, they become children of the world. They forget their mother's face.]

Your mother's face is her teaching. The first thing the school does is teach you to rebel against your mother's teaching, unless she's a child of the one world order.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
"From the time they notice their mother's face, they memorize it; and then look for those features in their own face, when they become able.
From the time they enter school, they become children of the world. They forget their mother's face.]

Your mother's face is her teaching. The first thing the school does is teach you to rebel against your mother's teaching, unless she's a child of the one world order.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean, and it looks like you just switched the pronouns with what you said about fathers.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Unless you become as a little child you will never see the Kingdom of Heaven.

Humans have almost everything in common with pigs and cows. Nature teaches us that it's the differences that matter.

I agree you do have to be as naive and gullible as a child to buy into this god claim without any evidence. But I outgrew childish things long ago.

Sadly childish people like you will continue to try and split and divide people into 'Us' and 'Them' which will only ensure that violence and wars between people continue. It's that horribly outdated philosophy that's wrong with the world. Unless folks like you learn how to grow up and become adults, we're doomed.
 
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