Brian2
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"too blind to see it because of tradition." That, as you know, is exactly what Baha'is say to Christians... Christians are so caught up into their misinterpretations and traditions they could not see "The Christ" when he did return. The Baha'is say that Baha'u'llah fulfilled...
"In that day also he shall come even to thee from Assyria, and from the fortified cities, and from the fortress even to the river, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain ... Feed thy people in the midst of Carmel..." [Micah 7: 10-12]And...
Bahá'u'lláh was banished first to Assyria (now part of Iraq), then to the city of Constantinople, then again to the fortress within the fortified city of Akka. When finally released from the fortress, he stayed on an island in the Na'mayn river. During His banishments He travelled on the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, lived as a Holy Man on Mount Gar-lu and pitched His tent on Mount Carmel, the "Mountain of God" where Elijah had dwelt in his cave.
"And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east." [Ezekiel 43:2]And they say he is the Comforter...
Bahá'u'lláh, Whose name means "Glory of God", came from Persia which is east of the Holy Land. And again:
"And the glory of the Lord came into the house by way of the gate whose prospect is towards the east." [Ezekiel 43:4]
The Person Who came to prepare the way for Bahá'u'lláh was called the Báb, which means the Gate.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come. – John 16:13.Christians, I'm sure have a different interpretation... and it depends a lot on the context. Then, Jews, no doubt, disagree with both Christians and Baha'is on the Micah and Ezekiel verses that Baha'is say are prophecies about Baha'u'llah. Here's another one from Abdul Baha...
In the eighth chapter of the Book of Daniel, verse thirteen, it is said: “Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary 42 and the host to be trodden under foot?” Then he answered (v. 14): “Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”; (v. 17) “But he said unto me … at the time of the end shall be the vision.” That is to say, how long will this misfortune, this ruin, this abasement and degradation last? meaning, when will be the dawn of the Manifestation? Then he answered, “Two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.” Briefly, the purport of this passage is that he appoints two thousand three hundred years, for in the text of the Bible each day is a year. Then from the date of the issuing of the edict of Artaxerxes to rebuild Jerusalem until the day of the birth of Christ there are 456 years, and from the birth of Christ until the day of the manifestation of the Báb there are 1844 years. When you add 456 years to this number it makes 2300 years. That is to say, the fulfillment of the vision of Daniel took place in the year A.D. 1844, and this is the year of the Báb’s manifestation according to the actual text of the Book of Daniel. Consider how clearly he determines the year of manifestation; there could be no clearer prophecy for a manifestation than this.
This clearly adds up to the year 1844... but... why start with the year 456? That was the edict to rebuild Jerusalem. In Daniel it says...
“How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the LORD’s people?”So how do Christians and Jews interpret this prophecy? And do either start with 456BC like the Baha'is?
14 He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”
And still... are the basic Jewish prophecies about when the Messiah will come and what he will do fulfilled? Christians say, "Yes, but some of them won't be fulfilled until he comes back." Baha'is say, "Yes, all has been fulfilled... but some are figurative and bringing peace is an ongoing process, not an immediate thing that gets fulfilled." Great, everybody could "prove" they are right.
I wasn't sure whether you wanted answers to these things or not or whether you were just pointing out that Baha'is and Christians seem to be doing the same thing. It certainly can be seen as the same thing on the surface and it can fool many people.