I don't see discrimination there either. But in the previous case which was based around preservation of Judaism, you said it was discrimination. I ask, why? What's the difference?
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Am I allowed to be a proud white person?
- Thread starter SA Huguenot
- Start date
Actually most cultures were doing pretty well until colonisers came along. There are tribes throughout the world that have existed for who knows how long without any interference. The Orthodox Jewish culture has also done quite well. The Native Americans and Aborigines were doing quite well without outside contact. The Inuit people were doing just fine.
Do what you wish. It's meaningless.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
How does demanding to be part of another tribe relate to keeping one's children away from people from other cultures?
The focus was about the tribe who rejected his demand.
Would it be bigotry if you did not want your children to associate with members of a cult? I suppose it could be given certain context and no definition for the cult. Not all are equal and some are benign.
I think it would highly depend on what the cult was, how their actions effect others in a objectively negative way, rather than just being called a cult by some. Heck most every religion is called a cult by someone. There's very few people I would ban my kids from associating with, and it's largely based on individual properties, not demographics. Certainly not just 'has a different religion/sex/sexuality/national origin' than me.
Sure - a group may define their culture in a xenophobic way; this still doesn't mean that the xenophobia is mandatory.
Since the bagpipes have never been exclusively Scottish, that would be rather strange of them.
BTW: when would these "old Gaelic Scots" you have in mind have lived? Scottish bagpipes only date back to the 1500s or so.
In fact, it's interesting that you would seize on something like bagpipes - unquestionably an influence of non-Scottish "outsiders" - as a marker of quintessential Scottish culture.
"Xenophobic: having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries"
Yeah, not seeing the connection...
Excuse me. Do kilts work instead? Tribal tattoos? What have you?
Tattoos. The Pritish (now British) Celts were known for being inked and shaved all over. 'Pritish' iirc literally means 'tattooed' or something meaning that.
Thought we agreed on that British Israelism thread awhile back that British comes from Brit-ish, man of the covenant in Hebrew?
Dual prophecy bro.Thought we agreed on that British Israelism thread awhile back that British comes from Brit-ish, man of the covenant in Hebrew?
Can this be?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I don't think so.
If you want to spend the rest of your life feeling as bad as you must be feeling (I read some of the above) then to carry on with your foot stamping upset is just going to hurt you more, and possibly hurt your family.
You tell us you are a Christian, so your Christ wasn't white...... how do you fit that in to your life and demands?
Jesus didn't give a hoot for all the things that you feel so proud about, so if you focus upon his life maybe that might help? But just now I do wonder what kiod of Christianity you got taught and follow. What Church or Creed do you follow?
exchemist
Veteran Member
Yes this is a good point and I found myself thinking about it too while answering the way I have - especially in the context of Judaism which @Harel13 brought up.
But I would say two things:
First, in my view you have no business using your children as a means to pass on a culture that you value. By all means teach them your culture in the hope they may value it (we all do that), but you have no right to prohibit them from contact with other cultures. When they are adults, they must choose what is right for them.
Second, you have no right to use skin colour as a lazy proxy for culture. All of us in the "western world", I imagine, know plenty of people of different skin tones who we find to be congenial companions, with cultures either the same as ours or only different in ways that are not problematic.
In the S Africa of old, there was a problem of culture, because apartheid was designed to ensure no black ever got educated or was able to get familiar with the culture of the white colonists. To put it crudely, they were kept in a state of civilisation a century or so behind the whites they served. That is changing now and a black middle class exists, just as it does in say the UK, France or the USA. So the cultural gap is being closed.
Cultural differences are real and not to be underestimated. Nobody says you have to socialise with people from a culture that does not fit with yours. (In my own family, one sister-in-law comes from a family originally from India in which the father disowned her when she married my brother, because he thought he should have the right to choose her a husband. She was a British, university-educated doctor and told him where he could shove that idea.) So, sure, be mindful of culture differences and step round them sensitively. But do not refuse to have contact with people on the basis of skin colour, before you know anything about them. That is prejudice: racial prejudice.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It was my homeschooling lessons (that Christian homeschooling people fawn over) from abit over 20 years ago.
I can see your other points but this sticks out to me.
Who are we to pass judgements about 'states of civilisation'? Who decides what is a backwards civilisation and what isn't? Us, with our post-Enlightenment Western European Liberal values? 'Our civilisation is more "forward" or "Infront" than theirs?' And we want to talk about discrimination..?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
If I had kids, I would feel no remorse or resentment for keeping them away from Evangelical fundamentalist churches, and I would not accept the label bigot for doing so.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Sorry what was? Were you taught about apartheid S Africa? Or do you mean you were taught to keep away from blacks in the same way as the OP suggests?