amorphous_constellation
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I watched half of a joe rogan podcast the other day with jordan jonas, where at one point, the guest talked about living with elk herders in some remote part of siberia, I think. I'll listen to the other half on my walk today
So he briefly alluded to a few things that I find very striking, and I want to tie them into social and theological theory. As you know, we suffer from a myriad array of social issues, with rampant unhappiness of one kind or another. Our western spiritual traditions also seem partly based on a skepticism for society, as opposed to perceiving life as an adventure. For example, the bible seems to deal with the problems that involve cities and empires more and more as the book progresses, but no one conglomerates anywhere for long in nomadism
This guest on rogan talked about how he 'dreamed better' when herding elk, about how his memory was better, and about how his body & mind seemed to be more engaged with the world, with nature. Then he talked about how there were people there who starting living in villages, and about how like 1 out of 3 were dying of alcoholism or suicide.. All of this drives home the point to me, that a nomadic lifestyle of herding ungulates probably fits human physiology like a glove
My proposition is that we find a middle ground between living this way and technological advancement. In nomadically herding the ungulates, we find natural discipline in serving ourselves and the earth. We engage in taboos that I suppose would align most with the 'spiritual' category, for our artificial separation from nature is broken, and a new sense of respect for it will naturally grow within us. Hence a religion is created, where man is no longer separate from soil and night star, and he can no longer deny himself as a humble organism embedded between them
However, the realm would still be dotted with hospitals, libraries, and nasa facilities etc. And the rarer people who wanted to inhabit those places could, and would serve to smooth out the natural lifestyle of the public, as well as advance the separate human technological adventure.
So he briefly alluded to a few things that I find very striking, and I want to tie them into social and theological theory. As you know, we suffer from a myriad array of social issues, with rampant unhappiness of one kind or another. Our western spiritual traditions also seem partly based on a skepticism for society, as opposed to perceiving life as an adventure. For example, the bible seems to deal with the problems that involve cities and empires more and more as the book progresses, but no one conglomerates anywhere for long in nomadism
This guest on rogan talked about how he 'dreamed better' when herding elk, about how his memory was better, and about how his body & mind seemed to be more engaged with the world, with nature. Then he talked about how there were people there who starting living in villages, and about how like 1 out of 3 were dying of alcoholism or suicide.. All of this drives home the point to me, that a nomadic lifestyle of herding ungulates probably fits human physiology like a glove
My proposition is that we find a middle ground between living this way and technological advancement. In nomadically herding the ungulates, we find natural discipline in serving ourselves and the earth. We engage in taboos that I suppose would align most with the 'spiritual' category, for our artificial separation from nature is broken, and a new sense of respect for it will naturally grow within us. Hence a religion is created, where man is no longer separate from soil and night star, and he can no longer deny himself as a humble organism embedded between them
However, the realm would still be dotted with hospitals, libraries, and nasa facilities etc. And the rarer people who wanted to inhabit those places could, and would serve to smooth out the natural lifestyle of the public, as well as advance the separate human technological adventure.
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