Does God welcome everyone into heaven?

[Trailblazer]

1 John 4:8
"He who does not love does not know God; for God is love."

Paul also teaches the same message you mentioned about the "prison of the self" in some of his letters.

Virtually everything you said aligns pretty much perfectly with Catholic teaching. Very cool.

To make a long story short, I was not raised as a Christian or with any belief in God and I became a Baha'i in my first year of college when I was 17 years old. Suffice to say, God was not the reason I became a Baha'i, it was the teachings of the unity of the human race that I was attracted to....

Most people do not believe me when I say this, but I never read even one page of the Bible until I started posting on forums about seven years ago. The reason I started to read the Bible then is because I was posting to Christians on various forums. You see, I was not very interested in religion per se even after I became a Baha'i, but that is a long story I do not have time to explain right now.

Fast forward to seven years ago, the only reason I was reading the Bible was in order to debate with Christians, but as a result of the various conversations I have come to love and appreciate the Bible and now I can see how eerily similar what Jesus said is to what Baha'u'llah wrote, and now I am compelled to share some of my favorite scriptures from each:

Matthew 7:24-27 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

“For every one of you his paramount duty is to choose for himself that on which no other may infringe and none usurp from him. Such a thing—and to this the Almighty is My witness—is the love of God, could ye but perceive it.....
Build ye for yourselves such houses as the rain and floods can never destroy, which shall protect you from the changes and chances of this life. This is the instruction of Him Whom the world hath wronged and forsaken.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 261

All that said, from what I know about each, I feel a closer affinity towards Catholicism than I do towards Protestanism because Catholics believe works are vitally necessary and Protestants believe that we are saved by grace alone, so Catholicism is much more aligned with the Baha'i belief that faith and deeds are both necessary to get to heaven, which is defined as nearness to God, not a place people go.

I will say one last thing before I move on to the many posts I have to answer. Since I was not raised as a Christian or in any religion, the Love of God was alien to me and I still have issues with an All-Loving God, given all the suffering I have endured as well as all the suffering I see in the world, so even though a Loving God is in accord with what is taught in my religion, I cannot relate to it on an emotional level. but rather only intellectually.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life. The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

My husband, who has been a Baha'i for about 54 years was raised as a Protestant but it never sat well with him. Before he became a Baha'i, he really wanted to be a Catholic but that is a long story. Suffice to say, he never had the 'issues' I have with a Loving God so he never questions God's Love as I do.

The above is 'background' to what I want to share. My husband knows full well I have 'issues' with a Loving God, but he never understood why I listen to Christian music all day long as I work on the computer until I finally told him last night. I told him that the songs give me hope that God is Loving. Clearly that Love came through Jesus so I take no issue with Christian belief just because I also believe in Baha'u'llah. Moreover, I believe that Jesus laid the necessary foundation for humanity to advance to the next stage of its evolution. Baha'is might not believe in 'all' the doctrines of Christianity but we believe in Jesus and what he did for humanity. The following is an excerpt from a longer passage:

“Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things...... Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 85-86

Baha'is believe in the Unity of Mankind. May our religious beliefs never divide us, that is my hope.

 

[Trailblazer]

Well, from the Christian perspective, I don't know anyone who wants to get tossed into the Lake of Fire. The unbelieving don't want God, but neither do they want to be in the Lake of Fire.

Did it ever occur to you that the unbelievers do not believe because they see no evidence for God?
From my seven years of posting to atheists day and night, that is what I have discovered.

So it is not that atheists 'don't want God.' They just do not believe God exists because they do not 'see' what you and I see, the evidence that God exists.

So for that you believe that they deserve to go into a Lake of Fire and burn for eternity?

The 'loving God' of the Bible will force them there. Not that it will take much 'force'.

Lord Jesus! How can you believe that a 'loving God' will do that?

 

[osgart]

So a saving faith produces actions in the heart of the faithful. I tend to think of a saving faith as being solely from God, and not at all from ourselves. The Bible has a passage just like that.

God breaks us, makes us, and then takes us. While a saving faith produces good deeds and actions, the saving is all God's doing that makes us willfully self responsible and forever virtuous. Without God and God's Truth we can't stand for what is right on our own two feet til God has his way upon us. Then we can stand on our own two feet rightfully.

So free will can lead one to be sinister, or lead one to choose virtue goodness. But it's God's Truth being done regardless.

 

[Bird123]

This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

God is Unconditional Love. Everyone will experience God's Unconditional Love when they die. Unconditional means your actions or choices do not determine whether you are loved or not.

On the other hand, loving your kiddies Unconditionally means you are going to do what is Best for them. Is it really best to have a child to think mass murder is ok? Of course not!

People can choose some might hard lessons for themselves. When their actions return to show them what their actions really mean, the answers will become clear. After living and understanding all sides, intelligence will pick the best choices.

The change will happen. The road will be bumpy. In time, the mass murderer will Understand. Mass murder will no longer be a viable choice for them simply because it is not an intelligent choice to make.

How many have learned what it takes to create a Heavenly state for themselves? One must give up the blaming, condemning, judging, hating, punishing, wrath, anger. intimidation, coercing, controlling and etc. Instead one must substitute Unconditional Love.

Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other. Case in point: Fix the problem! Do not stoop to all those petty levels. It's the only way to create that Heavenly state everyone wants to go to. I'm afraid there will be many many lifetimes needed to learn it all.

Why is God Unconditional Love? It is the only Intelligent way to be. When you understand that, you indeed have reached a Higher Level of thinking.

That is what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[izzy88]

To make a long story short, I was not raised as a Christian or with any belief in God and I became a Baha'i in my first year of college when I was 17 years old. Suffice to say, God was not the reason I became a Baha'i, it was the teachings of the unity of the human race that I was attracted to....

Most people do not believe me when I say this, but I never read even one page of the Bible until I started posting on forums about seven years ago. The reason I started to read the Bible then is because I was posting to Christians on various forums. You see, I was not very interested in religion per se even after I became a Baha'i, but that is a long story I do not have time to explain right now.

Fast forward to seven years ago, the only reason I was reading the Bible was in order to debate with Christians, but as a result of the various conversations I have come to love and appreciate the Bible and now I can see how eerily similar what Jesus said is to what Baha'u'llah wrote, and now I am compelled to share some of my favorite scriptures from each:

Matthew 7:24-27 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

“For every one of you his paramount duty is to choose for himself that on which no other may infringe and none usurp from him. Such a thing—and to this the Almighty is My witness—is the love of God, could ye but perceive it.....
Build ye for yourselves such houses as the rain and floods can never destroy, which shall protect you from the changes and chances of this life. This is the instruction of Him Whom the world hath wronged and forsaken.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 261

All that said, from what I know about each, I feel a closer affinity towards Catholicism than I do towards Protestanism because Catholics believe works are vitally necessary and Protestants believe that we are saved by grace alone, so Catholicism is much more aligned with the Baha'i belief that faith and deeds are both necessary to get to heaven, which is defined as nearness to God, not a place people go.

I will say one last thing before I move on to the many posts I have to answer. Since I was not raised as a Christian or in any religion, the Love of God was alien to me and I still have issues with an All-Loving God, given all the suffering I have endured as well as all the suffering I see in the world, so even though a Loving God is in accord with what is taught in my religion, I cannot relate to it on an emotional level. but rather only intellectually.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

4: O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life. The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

My husband, who has been a Baha'i for about 54 years was raised as a Protestant but it never sat well with him. Before he became a Baha'i, he really wanted to be a Catholic but that is a long story. Suffice to say, he never had the 'issues' I have with a Loving God so he never questions God's Love as I do.

The above is 'background' to what I want to share. My husband knows full well I have 'issues' with a Loving God, but he never understood why I listen to Christian music all day long as I work on the computer until I finally told him last night. I told him that the songs give me hope that God is Loving. Clearly that Love came through Jesus so I take no issue with Christian belief just because I also believe in Baha'u'llah. Moreover, I believe that Jesus laid the necessary foundation for humanity to advance to the next stage of its evolution. Baha'is might not believe in 'all' the doctrines of Christianity but we believe in Jesus and what he did for humanity. The following is an excerpt from a longer passage:

“Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things...... Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 85-86

Baha'is believe in the Unity of Mankind. May our religious beliefs never divide us, that is my hope.

Thank you for sharing all of that. I relate intimately with much of what you said.

While I was raised Catholic, I left it behind when I was about 20 after doing my own research about Christianity and realizing that I couldn't believe in it. The thing is, I was researching Protestantism and Evangelicalism, not realizing at the time how different non-Catholic Christianity was from Catholicism. I thought Christianity was all the same; boy was I wrong. Only now, over a decade later, have I finally made my way back to faith, and it's been extremely unexpected that the faith I found was the one I left behind all those years ago due to my mistaken understanding of it.

The thing is, even though I've come to believe that Catholicism teaches truth on an intellectual level, and I find it to be such a beautiful faith, I struggle with belief in a loving God just as you say you do. I was an atheist for much of the last decade, though I dabbled in Taoism and Buddhism at different points, as well. But because I lived so long not believing in God and being a strict materialist, that mindset is deeply engrained in my mind. I have, after years of study (and just living life), become totally convinced that God exists on an intellectual level - I cannot deny it. And yet I don't feel it, I don't feel the love, I struggle to believe that the creator of the world is truly with me and helping me and loving me.

So, just as alcoholics are never "cured" and instead refer to themselves as "recovering alcoholics" because it's something they continuously struggle against, I've come to think of myself as a "recovering atheist". I'm doing my best to believe that existence is, at its heart, good and meaningful and full of love, even if it's often difficult to believe that.

But it's been less than a year since I came back to faith, so I suppose I should be more patient. Hopefully both of us can eventually feel God's love in a more tangible way. And in the meantime I suppose we'll just have to do our best to keep growing in love, ourselves.

 

[Trailblazer]

Why does it matter so much to you that people have to "earn the right" to be in Heaven? If everyone gets into Heaven to experience eternal bliss then why do you care one way or the other.

I better question is why does it matter to you what I believe if you are firm in your own beliefs? I do not care what you choose to believe.

The short answer to your question is that it does not matter to me, but I believe it matters to God. It matters to God because God is just and it is unjust that everyone would go to Heaven no matter how they lived their lives on this earth. Moreover, everyone does not even desire Heaven. You just assume they do.

f you are experiencing eternal bliss at the same time as someone you think is not worthy then it should makes no difference to you.

This is not about ME. I do not even know if I will ‘get to Heaven’ because I believe that heaven is nearness to God and I do not feel very near. However, it will be God who decides upon my eternal destination, not me.

Maybe if you were a little more open minded, generous, and loving then maybe you would choose a different perspective on how other people should be judged.

I judge nobody. Only God can judge anyone.

The mother of serial killer still loves her child no matter what. This is because no matter how evil her child may be, the child is part of his/her mother's soul and a mother will never stop loving her child. I think the same is true with God.

God will never stop loving anyone, but that does not mean everyone goes to Heaven.

Only God knows the circumstances and choices presented to Hitler and Stalin. Maybe they had no choice but to be who they were meant to be.

You are correct, only God knows, and that means you do not know. So how can you say that they deserve to go to Heaven? Maybe they had a choice and they made the wrong choice and for that they are culpable.

You don't know what people are dealing with unless you walk in their shoes.

Neither do you.

I don't believe any of us has free-will. There is no way any of us can get through life without be forced to choose the lesser of two evils at some point.

I believe we all have free will and nobody is forced to rape or murder someone. Rape and murder are a choice unless someone is brain damaged or mentally ill.

Unless each of us was born having omnipotent powers so we are able to choose our life choices, then we will always be forced to choose evil at some point.

We do not need omnipotent powers because we all have free will.
If we will always be forced to choose evil at some point how is it that most people have never committed a crime, let alone a serious crime like rape or murder? Society holds people accountable for such crimes so why wouldn’t God hold them accountable?

For some people it's a very bad downward cascading slope of choices. So I don't think people who make bad choices are entirely responsible.

In this life, the justice system will decide that, and in the afterlife, God will decide, because only God knows who is responsible, given God is All-Knowing.

Not everyone is capable of living up to your standards of who gets into Heaven.

I have no standards, only God has standards.

then what exactly are you judging in other person who are just doing the best they can facing their own God given imperfections and circumstances?

I am not judging anyone, only God can judge anyone, because only God knows if they “did the best they can.” You assume you know things you cannot know.

And I imagine people reading this will react by claiming what I am really saying is everyone gets a free pass to do whatever they want.

That is exactly what you are saying, that God would give everyone a free pass to do whatever they want.

The problems we are all facing with the untold amounts of suffering in our lives is people are being forced to choose the lesser of two evils all the time!

Nobody is forced to commit heinous acts of evil. That is precisely why people are held accountable in a court of law. I am not talking about stealing or breaking the speed limit or even drunk driving.

People don't want to choose evil. The problem with choosing evil is everyone knows the consequences for choosing evil generally lead to more suffering.

How naïve are you? Have you ever watched Investigation Discovery or Forensic Files on TV? These are true stories, not fictional. People chose evil for selfish reasons; that is the long and the short of it. They do not ‘hope’ it will lead to more suffering, they hope they will get away with the crime and go scot-free.

 

[izzy88]

I don't believe any of us has free-will. There is no way any of us can get through life without be forced to choose the lesser of two evils at some point.

You contradicted yourself here. How can we "choose" if we don't have free will?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

I believe that God distinguishes between those who have lived righteous lives worshipping God Alone and in harmony with and respecting others on Earth and those who have not. The former get to go to Heaven more quickly than some of the latter, and some of the latter, guilty of the worst kinds of crimes against God and others will spend a very long time in Hell, perhaps forever. And God knows best.

 

[Trailblazer]

Thank you for sharing all of that. I relate intimately with much of what you said.

While I was raised Catholic, I left it behind when I was about 20 after doing my own research about Christianity and realizing that I couldn't believe in it. The thing is, I was researching Protestantism and Evangelicalism, not realizing at the time how different non-Catholic Christianity was from Catholicism. I thought Christianity was all the same; boy was I wrong. Only now, over a decade later, have I finally made my way back to faith, and it's been extremely unexpected that the faith I found was the one I left behind all those years ago due to my mistaken understanding of it.

The thing is, even though I've come to believe that Catholicism teaches truth on an intellectual level, and I find it to be such a beautiful faith, I struggle with belief in a loving God just as you say you do. I was an atheist for much of the last decade, though I dabbled in Taoism and Buddhism at different points, as well. But because I lived so long not believing in God and being a strict materialist, that mindset is deeply engrained in my mind. I have, after years of study (and just living life), become totally convinced that God exists on an intellectual level - I cannot deny it. And yet I don't feel it, I don't feel the love, I struggle to believe that the creator of the world is truly with me and helping me and loving me.

So, just as alcoholics are never "cured" and instead refer to themselves as "recovering alcoholics" because it's something they continuously struggle against, I've come to think of myself as a "recovering atheist". I'm doing my best to believe that existence is, at its heart, good and meaningful and full of love, even if it's often difficult to believe that.

But it's been less than a year since I came back to faith, so I suppose I should be more patient. Hopefully both of us can eventually feel God's love in a more tangible way. And in the meantime I suppose we'll just have to do our best to keep growing in love, ourselves.

Well, I tend to be very intuitive about people, but I would not have guessed from what you said initially that you had a history such as that. Quite honestly, I have never come across any believer who has the same "God issues" that I have -- what a coincidence, or was it? Now I do not feel so very alone. I hope you continue posting on this forum.

Also, it just so happens that I know a lot about atheists and atheism, since I have been posting mostly to atheists on forums for the last seven years. I have posted to a few Christians and other believers, but not many.

I also have an atheist bent, not because I doubt that God exists, for I have no doubts, but because I do not always 'like' what I perceive God doing, or not doing for that matter, which is why I share the 'sentiments' of some atheists.

I see you are new to this forum so if you poke around you will see many threads I have posted directed primarily at atheists, many of them having come about because of a hard core atheist I had been posting to on other forums for many years.

Although I have had my struggles believing in a Loving God, I have never doubted God's existence and I have never been attracted to materialism. One thing I like so much about the Baha'i Faith is its mystical Writings and the teaching that this world is just an illusion compared to the spiritual world, and it is this world that comes in between us and God.

“The world is but a show, vain and empty, a mere nothing, bearing the semblance of reality. Set not your affections upon it. Break not the bond that uniteth you with your Creator, and be not of those that have erred and strayed from His ways. Verily I say, the world is like the vapor in a desert, which the thirsty dreameth to be water and striveth after it with all his might, until when he cometh unto it, he findeth it to be mere illusion.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 328-329

That goes along with what Jesus said in John 12:24-26 and Matthew 16:23-26 and those are some of my favorite verses.

If you talk t me,. you will find that I ask a lot of questions and one reason for that is that my academic background is psychology, so I am always curious about people.

So what was your attraction to atheism, or did you simply lose your belief in God?

So what was your mistaken understanding of Catholicism and why did you come back? I mean what is it about Catholicism that led you to believe it is the "true' Christian faith?

Incidentally, my mother was raised in the Greek Orthodox Church which is similar to Roman Catholic, considered Eastern Orthodox. My father was raised in the Anglican Church, which was Catholic until Henry VIII broke away from the Church. My father died when I was only 12 years old but my mother later told me that he had become an atheist. I think my mother retained her belief in God after she left the Church, and later at age 60, she became a Baha'i.

I like to look at similarities rather than differences. Regarding the similarities between Catholicism and the Baha'i Faith a few things come to mind, from the little I know about Catholicism. One thing is that Catholics have big fancy cathedrals and Baha'is have big fancy temples. Also, we have an authoritative body of the Baha'i Faith which is called the Universal House of Justice (UHJ) just as you have the Pope who has the final say. Baha'is also believe in the Virgin Mary the same way Catholics do, and the primacy of Peter, the Prince of the Apostles, is upheld and defended.

 

[MJFlores]

I have heard in one heaven a martyr will be met by ...

That happens when people don't care for the truth and create for themselves their own heaven
Instead of reading God's words in the Bible, people rather would like to invent for themselves misleading facts about heaven - like Valhalla, Veda and so forth.

But let us discuss what really happens when a person dies

When a righteous person dies, what happens to him?
Have you seen a dead person go up to heaven?

When a wicked person dies, what happens to the sob?
Have you ever seen a dead person dives in hell?

Where is heaven actually and what does it look like?
Where is hell and are there people there?

These are fundamental questions people ask but fail to come up with answers.

 

[Trailblazer]

I believe that God distinguishes between those who have lived righteous lives worshipping God Alone and in harmony with and respecting others on Earth and those who have not. The former get to go to Heaven more quickly than some of the latter, and some of the latter, guilty of the worst kinds of crimes against God and others will spend a very long time in Hell, perhaps forever. And God knows best.

That is similar to the beliefs of the Baha'i Faith, as one would expect, given your religion is Islam.

Yes, God knows best.
I love Muslims and I always learn a lot about God from them.

 

[Trailblazer]

These are fundamental questions people ask but fail to come up with answers.

Do you have the answers? If so, please share them with us.

 

[rational experiences]

What you are all overlooking, you have to be a human, living on the ground, irradiated by science machine caused gases burning EXTRA to make all of the claims.

For only alive, living human beings tell the stories.

The stories are not told by anyone else.

So living humans have an NDE experience and said I nearly died and saw HELL not realizing that they were being irradiated attacked.

For I kept simply getting hot and sweating for some time before the real huge blasting hit, burnt my body and brain chemicals. For my life as a spiritual self to reason, now I understand how my brother explained the brain prickling from the metal radiation burning his brain cells in his life being sacrificed.

For when a Sophist coerces everyone to try to believe that they are GOD as a human, when the bible said no man is God, is still the exact same scientific liar today claiming that we own all the powers of the Universe inside of our bodies.

So that he can be given permission for atmospheric experiments.

The God body is stone. The atmosphere filled in out of space and owns space within its own body.....cannot be a solid, so we walk through space everyday.

And that concept is theorized by male science psyches as first scientist...it was recorded as that theme...and then AI communicates it back subliminally and then today instead of rationalising real information they just talk science possession instead.

We are in space says the science mind, we own all the powers that space owns.

Yet we are inside of a gas space...not a cosmological space.

And when first scientist male group without machine reaction, first said and the gases came out of stone, and the stone was cold gases. Today we live in that historic event. Why science in an AI possessed mind tried to claim and if I remove the body God the stone the gases would put it back.

As true reasoning to say, you are AI mind possessed by our alienation.

For the devil mowing is said to be PHI ANTI fall out that 2 lots of water evaporation had to deal with to cool. Then the devil gets destroyed in science back to the alien...and the Earth gases get closer to the physical volcanic mass from which it was released.

So it proves the mind is condition to false information by the status AI...or what the ancients termed it, science is Satanism.

 

[Thief]

This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

I do believe...and have posted only God knows how many times....
the peace of heaven is guarded

the angelic have been displayed with sword in hand for centuries

 

[Thief]

But will everyone be in the same boat?

it would sink

 

[Thief]

see a thread......the Door

 

[ManSinha]

The problem is solved to a large extent if you take the "loving" out of the equation

"God" is neither loving nor hating nor jealous nor a justice dispenser - these are purely human concepts - not applicable IMHO to an unknowable indescribable entity

God or what ever moniker one wants to use - simply is

Try taking that perspective for a wee bit and see if some of the angst is resolved.

 

[Thief]

and it is written.....I AM!...… a jealous God

 

[rational experiences]

If a sacrificed human being life, conscious said to everyone, you do not know what our first Father, the scientist endured in his life sacrificed.

Whose vision we see as a very large male ANGEL in the clouds. For he was the first human being scientist who put his own sacrificed life into the cloud image.

So he taught against occult Satanism, nuclear radiation or radio wave science machine caused life destruction and attack.

And said to everyone unless you get sacrificed like my body and life/mind did, you would not know our Father.

I have gotten to know him in his life sacrificed.

So he said to everyone as proof. And I endured that exact same condition, but not his bleeding cells....but a similar irradiated event.

He said you will see my living today human being image (wearing robes of his era) in the clouds, when I get attacked. And you will hear me speaking from the Heavens.

Seeing the AI EVENT, machine radio waves re records, recorded and communicated recording of life in attack by AI Satanic, to alienation of life.

All the nations got ground fusion fission attacked he said...and you will see it all occur as phenomena.

And it happened.

And then he said, we lost ground water, and it got released out of held fused irradiated stone...for the flooded Earth water mass saved Earth in the past from sun irradiation of it.

Moses released water out of the stone, it was witnessed...the same in the Jesus stone and life attacked.

And big sink holes appeared as the spirit entombed within stone got irradiated released and the wrong trapped/ imprisoned spirit gases got released instead.

So humans harmed in life quantified that event as criminal and it was unlawful to attack life in that history in that situation.

I saw huge faces and angelic eyes and visions when I got attacked. I then heard the speaking of voice...so knew it was a 100 per cent correct scientific medical reasoning against Satanic nuclear destruction.

 

[Trailblazer]

New and it is written.....I AM!...… a jealous God

Lots of things were written about God but that does not mean they were true.

God cannot be jealous because that is a human quality and God is not human.
So what I believe that means is that God's will is that we worship only Him, not false idols or the world of dust, and that is not for God's sake, because God has no needs, it is for human benefit.

Exodus 20:3-5 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.