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No clever title, just an animated graph that will grab your attention.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think I would prefer the 'creative' title. *grin*

Heart disease. Guess you could say I'm number one along with my disease infused compatriots.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member

Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. Clearly, the person who made this chart was pulling real-time data about COVID, but using fixed (non-real-time) data about the other causes. I agree that the overall message probably doesn't change much, but I would be more interested in seeing an accurate chart that doesn't assume that the likelihood of dying from all of these other causes of death is 100% static.
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
Yeah... it was sobering, huh? Something for the "well ackshually... seasonal influenza kills lots of people too" crowd.

I know what you mean about flu comparisons. I am not doing that here but I was however recently wondering how bad the flu is this season and found this site:

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

Those are pretty scary numbers especially for those of us with much more grey hair than our original color. :)
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. Clearly, the person who made this chart was pulling real-time data about COVID, but using fixed (non-real-time) data about the other causes. I agree that the overall message probably doesn't change much, but I would be more interested in seeing an accurate chart that doesn't assume that the likelihood of dying from all of these other causes of death is 100% static.
The other figures are monthly averages. This entire timeline is only a few weeks, statistics for the other causes aren't that granular, which in itself should tell you something.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I know what you mean about flu comparisons. I am not doing that here but I was however recently wondering how bad the flu is this season and found this site:

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

Those are pretty scary numbers especially for those of us with much more grey hair than our original color. :)
Now factor in what the flu figures will be superimposed on a healthcare system already stretched beyond capacity by the COVID-19 outbreak. I rather suspect the CDC's figures here are optimistic, at best.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. Clearly, the person who made this chart was pulling real-time data about COVID, but using fixed (non-real-time) data about the other causes. I agree that the overall message probably doesn't change much, but I would be more interested in seeing an accurate chart that doesn't assume that the likelihood of dying from all of these other causes of death is 100% static.
That's because it's comparing current covid figures against the US AVERAGE daily figures, so of course the others don't change...
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This of course ignores the #1 problem - overwhelming the health care system.

But stand alone, it illustrates how fast the death toll is growing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. .
I checked the accident statistic, & multiplying it by 31, it comports
well with what I found in Wikipedia. I'll wager that daily stats for
non-coronavirus deaths aren't available, so the author must use
an average. It's accurate enuf to make the point about change
because the virus is the most volatile & dynamic of all cited.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
I checked the accident statistic, & multiplying it by 31, it comports
well with what I found in Wikipedia. I'll wager that daily stats for
non-coronavirus deaths aren't available, so the author must use
an average. It's accurate enuf to make the point about change
because the virus is the most volatile & dynamic of all cited.

I agree, but I'd be curious about what flu/pneumonia would look like at the start of flu season in Nov and Dec. Likely would not increase as fast as COVID, but may be closer than we realize.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. Clearly, the person who made this chart was pulling real-time data about COVID, but using fixed (non-real-time) data about the other causes. I agree that the overall message probably doesn't change much, but I would be more interested in seeing an accurate chart that doesn't assume that the likelihood of dying from all of these other causes of death is 100% static.
They do change, and in fact at least a couple momentarily moved above Covid.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Interesting. But note that the numbers associated with all of the other causes of death on the list never change at all, so this can hardly be considered accurate. Clearly, the person who made this chart was pulling real-time data about COVID, but using fixed (non-real-time) data about the other causes. I agree that the overall message probably doesn't change much, but I would be more interested in seeing an accurate chart that doesn't assume that the likelihood of dying from all of these other causes of death is 100% static.
They are "averages". Averages do not change from day to day.

Back to the OP. That's a very interesting way of looking at the situation. Misleading, but interesting nevertheless.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Interesting.... But I think I could have done without seeing that today... I think I'm on Covid-19 overload at the moment living in NYS....and they are now transferring patients in to my area from Queens....which is about 4 hours south of my location
 
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