cataway
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no ,no its not
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Proposed bill would require men in Alabama to get vasectomy
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Father Heathen
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Do it. Prove to us how pro rights, pro freedom, pro equality, etc. the evangelical party actually is.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
While not perfect in some areas, they are far more the champions of individual rights and freedoms than the socialist Democrats are, and likely ever will be.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There's no such party. Nice straw man.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Nice counterpoint.
I can well imagine that wealthier white straight guys would think so.
The rest of us, not so much.
That's probably why there are so many more Democrats than Republicans.
Tom
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's pretty damn sad is using actual political bills that have potential real-world repercussions.
Oh wow is right.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Again, provide us with that tally.
You're probably hesitant because you know that you've painted yourself into a corner.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
By that I suppose, given the converse, you must be referencing the poorer black gay guys who would think not.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not really it's just going to take some time to put it together. Feel free to add into that as well yourself. The Nanny State environment is pretty vast territory.
In the meantime....
What Liberals Don’t Understand About Freedom
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Shadow Wolf
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Republicans are known for saying I can take a back seat a be a second class citizen and not fully entitled like Conservative Christians.
This thread is about some show boating in Alabama.
The Republicans want to limit freedom and personal choice. A Democrat proposed a similar government intrusion into people's personal lives, only it was guy's lives.
Suddenly, the Democrats are the party of big intrusive government again. Because they opposed big government intrusion by Republicans.
Do you not see the irony here?
And frankly, I'm opposed to unrestricted feticide rights. But dang. The Republicans are trying to limit personal freedom, and you're not talking about that. You keep insisting that it's the Democrats?!
What's with that?
Tom
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Those who align themselves with evangelicals and their theocratic agenda are in no position to lecture others about freedom.
Nice rejoinder.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Well, that's liberal speak for you.
In reality, conservatives are about big government controlling social behavior
liberals are about big government controlling fiscal behavior. Take the emotional baggage out of it, if you please. Both sides are about 'helping people.' Just in their own way.
In MY view, liberals want to do what they want to do, the way they want to do it (socially) and 'think rightly' and be comfortable and make everybody else pay for it AND toe the line. I've been around quite awhile now, and frankly, it is the liberals who want to take the money and run.
In MY view, conservatives want everybody to be moral, and not do drugs, and behave themselves according to traditional more's ...and leave the ability to get rich open to all, with the liberty (freedom) to do, say, think and worship (or not) as they wish.
It is pretty obvious that these two main goals can sometimes run into each other. However, it generally settles down to "liberals want everybody to think the way they do and will punish anybody who thinks or speaks differently" and "conservatives want more freedom of action, but everybody had better have the same values we do."
As for me, I'm about....everybody should be free to say, think or be whoever they wanna be. 'Political correctness" is a by word and a curse.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
OK then, What's your problem?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
What problem?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Not unless it's the freedom to discriminate and the "freedom" to go bankrupt when you get seriously ill, or just die from it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Oh, yeah, BTW, in "nany socialist iron fisted" blue California, when I got my driver's license picture taken here they let me wear my glasses, and they also let me smile. Indiana allows neither.