Skwim
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So what's wrong with seeing one's girlfriend naked for some odd medical intervention scenario?
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A question that is on my mind
- Thread starter Frank Goad
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@Frank Goad if you really want answers to questions like this, then you need to study the Bible. It will answer all your questions.
When it comes to romantic relationships, the Bible discourages any sexual contact before marriage. It encourages looking for a marriage mate who also shares your spiritual goals, which means that you will have a common goal in your relationship to please God. Marriage is difficult as it is, combining two separate individuals and all their 'baggage', without religion causing divisions that need not exist.
Ecclesiastes 4:12 says that....."a three fold chord cannot easily be torn apart.".....if God is the third strand in a marriage, then the relationship has more of a chance of remaining strong. There is a strong platform to resolve difficulties.
For JW's, we avoid dating until we are ready to commit to marriage. We choose to get together in groups where people can meet and get to know one another in company with others.
With the current view of easy sex, and nothing taboo, it's requires strong faith and a commitment to God in order to remain sexually 'clean' in God's sight.
When it comes to romantic relationships, the Bible discourages any sexual contact before marriage. It encourages looking for a marriage mate who also shares your spiritual goals, which means that you will have a common goal in your relationship to please God. Marriage is difficult as it is, combining two separate individuals and all their 'baggage', without religion causing divisions that need not exist.
Ecclesiastes 4:12 says that....."a three fold chord cannot easily be torn apart.".....if God is the third strand in a marriage, then the relationship has more of a chance of remaining strong. There is a strong platform to resolve difficulties.
For JW's, we avoid dating until we are ready to commit to marriage. We choose to get together in groups where people can meet and get to know one another in company with others.
With the current view of easy sex, and nothing taboo, it's requires strong faith and a commitment to God in order to remain sexually 'clean' in God's sight.
Galateasdream
Active Member
Nothing. Hence the phrasing of my post.
Skwim
Veteran Member
You are talking about young teens like 13,14, or 15 aren't you? Anyone older should be beyond any modesty.
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Skwim
Veteran Member
Galateasdream
Active Member
From within a conservative Christian paradigm, nakedness for the intention of sexual kicks is oft considered wrong. See the conservative posters in this thread.
BilliardsBall
Veteran Member
Born again Christians pursuing God's will for relationships should do nothing that causes their intended to lust.
Frank Goad
Well-Known Member
I just asked this just in case I get a girlfriend.To know what the bible says about what I was asking about in my first post.
Galateasdream
Active Member
As a JW, don't you have access to clear instruction on this sort of thing?
As a very liberal Christian I have a different view to conservatives on sex etc, but for yourself as a JW I'd have thought this an odd place to seek guidance?
Frank Goad
Well-Known Member
I am not putting you on with questions like this one.I really want a sincere answer to these kind of questions.When I ask them.
Seek truth
Member
As muslims It's not allowed for us to have a boyfriend or girlfriend let alone seeing her naked. We muslims, we only marry.After thet you can touch your wife etc... and that all is to build a real and safe relationship and to stay away from all the bad stuff like cheating etc...
stvdv
Veteran Member
That's private, between God, you and your girlfriend IMO. None of my business.
But, as you ask what the Bible says.
My answer would be "Before going to bed, pray to God/Jesus to tell you personally (e.g. in a dream)"
If you have not yet seen her naked, and God is serious about this matter, then if I were God, I would grant you an answer; considering that nowadays there are not many who surrender/sacrifice one of the biggest desires to God. Everywhere in the Bible I read that God runs for the pure of heart
nPeace
Veteran Member
That's a really thoughtful question Frank, and I am glad to see you are looking to God for the answer, since it seems you realize you can trust it's time tested wisdom. Well done.
Bible principles can help, but first, a story.
Two young people were courting, and apparently they started kissing - not the peck on the cheek kissing.
Eventually, they found themselves alone, in a room, just the two of them... kissing. What could go wrong?
Then they started touching... petting... heavy petting... oops. The girl got pregnant - before marriage.
What a sad lesson they learned.
Once passions are aroused, it's hard to hold them back, or control them. Very hard. Just look at this sex mad world, and you will see. So many men are married, and they can't keep their pants on, when they leave home - not excluding women.
Not saying self control is not possible, but it requires great effort, and loyalty to godly standards... which this world scoffs at.
Hence, the following principles are good to consider
1) Don't ignore your conscience, and consider the conscience of others... in the sight of God.
(Romans 2:14, 15 ;13:5; 1 Corinthians 8:7-13 ; 10:25-33)
(2 Corinthians 4:2) But we have renounced the shameful, underhanded things, not walking with cunning or adulterating the word of God; but by making the truth manifest, we recommend ourselves to every human conscience in the sight of God.
2) Don't give in to peer pressure, or accept advise that goes against what you believe, or what you think God's view is on the matter.
(Proverbs 13:20 ; 1 Corinthians 15:33)
3) Remember the song you probably sang at Sunday School. "Be careful little eyes, what you see."
(Job 31:1 ; Matthew 5:28)
So just be patient, and exercise self control during your courtship. (1 Corinthians 7:1, 2, 9)
(1 Thessalonians 4:4, 5) 4 Each one of you should know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5 not with greedy, uncontrolled sexual passion like the nations have that do not know God.
Here is an article that might help.
Also, you can find more on the subject on this page.
Always feel free to use the search engine there, for anything you would like to know about.
nPeace
Veteran Member
Frank is not a JW.
Galateasdream
Active Member
The human body is beautiful, why should religion instill such repression into people to make such beauty sinful?
Seek truth
Member
For us Muslims woman are like diamonds.
Are diamonds just exposed (on the streets)? Or are they deep down in the earth? Its really hard to find them and get them out.
Thats the same with our woman. We cover them beacuse your wife is only for you. You can not share her with someone else!
A woman is not a diamond, she has a brain and can think for herself so I would say it is not up to a man to dictate how a woman dresses, unless of course the arrangement is reciprocal and the man dresses how the woman in his life directs.
Anyway we are talking one to one, close relationship of boyfriend/girlfriend here, not public performance
Are you asking because your conscience is bothering you?
james bond
Well-Known Member
If you mean to stimulate sexual feelings, then the Bible says it is a sin of lust. This is what you seem to be asking. So how do you learn about these things if one does not know. I think sexual education is fine being taught in high schools as well as contraception. Some of it could start in middle school as we had kids doing marijuana, alcohol, and stronger drugs and passing pornographic nudie mags around. What could be worse is pornography according to the Bible as it is addicting.
So what does a healthy Christian young man in today's world have to do? I think pray daily, for one, as there are many temptations that get us off from the mind of God. Personally, I think one has to at least be exposed to some of what's bad to know, i.e. experience what is good vs. bad. With the bad, my advice is to take it slow. Don't just rush headlong into it. You may get used to liking it or addicted and not get out. Thus, the Bible and God is always there for the good. You can experience what is good. You just have to take it slow on the bad, so you can get back on the good if things go wrong or not to your liking.
I think the other thing what your questions are leading to is premarital sex. That is something one has to decide for themselves. The old adage is true. It is better to wait until marriage. However, it is difficult when there are much temptations out there in today's world to stimulate young men and how your girl friend feels, too. How far do you go with foreplay? With that my advice is to go slow. If you do have sex, then it changes your relationship. It isn't necessarily for the better because at your age it is difficult to understand sexual feelings which are quite powerful as well as feelings of love and wanting to take care of the other person. The actual sex act does not deal with those feelings underlying your relationship. Also, what happens if she gets pregnant? Are you ready to deal with issues like that? Thus, my advice is to go slow and experiencing sexuality. it's safest if you wait until marriage, but otherwise go slow.