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Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund

robocop (actually)

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The explanation I read in another article:

Charities have to use their money for charitable purposes. Reasonable reserve funds are allowed, but hoarding money isn't considered a charitable purpose.

That being said, other charities have similar hoards of money (for instance), so it seems to me like this might be making a whole lot out of the LDS Church not formally setting this fund up as an endowment.

I think there have been much worse violations of tax rules by religious organizations.
And what are the rules of Churches? I know that despite the First ammendment, there are still rules, but what is the rule here regarding Churches?
 

Left Coast

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Before He comes there will be a great battle of good and evil. That battle must be fought strategically by the good! How good we do before Christ comes matters!

So there's gonna be a war...like an actual war with guns and tanks and bombs...against Mormons? And Mormons are gonna use this money, to create an army? To prepare for a war, which the supernatural Savior of the world is going to ensure victory for anyway? Who's gonna be on the "evil" team?
 

Dan From Smithville

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The explanation I read in another article:

Charities have to use their money for charitable purposes. Reasonable reserve funds are allowed, but hoarding money isn't considered a charitable purpose.

That being said, other charities have similar hoards of money (for instance), so it seems to me like this might be making a whole lot out of the LDS Church not formally setting this fund up as an endowment.

I think there have been much worse violations of tax rules by religious organizations.
I think that the comments, excuses, and justifications offered in response are more interesting than the issue itself.
 

robocop (actually)

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So there's gonna be a war...like an actual war with guns and tanks and bombs...against Mormons? And Mormons are gonna use this money, to create an army? To prepare for a war, which the supernatural Savior of the world is going to ensure victory for anyway? Who's gonna be on the "evil" team?

Everyone will line up where they will in the war. Everyone will have the knowledge they need to make the right decision. I don't know how the money will be spent.

NOW GET THIS: If you say that it doesn't matter what we do because the Savior is to save us anyway, you deny loving the Savior for you do not care about keeping His commandments.

The evil team will be those that try to destroy each other.
 

robocop (actually)

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Why does god need money? Isn't that about as silly as god needing a ship?
Who are you to tell God what He needs?

If you think what we do doesn't matter, I oppose your line of thought. Acceptance of Christ means loving Him, obeying His commandments, following His example, taking upon us His name, remembering Him, emulating Him, listening to all He said, and trying to get what He was about among other things.
 

Left Coast

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Everyone will line up where they will in the war. Everyone will have the knowledge they need to make the right decision. I don't know how the money will be spent.

This isn't really an answer. It's going to be Mormons vs. non-Mormons, yes? I want to make sure I'm understanding the scene.

NOW GET THIS: If you say that it doesn't matter what we do because the Savior is to save us anyway, you deny loving the Savior for you do not care about keeping His commandments.

How true! So, you're training for the war, right? Training to use multiple weapons, prepping for nuclear winter, planning the military strategy, etc.?


The evil team will be those that try to destroy each other.

Why would they try to destroy each other, if their common enemy is the Mormons? Wouldn't they try to destroy the Mormons?
 

robocop (actually)

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A vague non-answer. If the Mormons are saving up for an army they will be looking to destroy somebody too. Is it us non-believers?
The Latter-day Saints would be looking to encourage humanity to save itself. The people on the other team would not necessarily be unbelievers, but wicked. Wicked means that they attempt to harm each other. That would be their way of life, and if everyone follows it it leads to humanity-destruction.
 

Dan From Smithville

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If you think what we do doesn't matter, I oppose your line of thought. Acceptance of Christ means loving Him, obeying His commandments, following His example, taking upon us His name, remembering Him, emulating Him, listening to all He said, and trying to get what He was about among other things.
I don't think it matters as you seem to think it does. I certainly do not feel that going to war over ideology and embracing all the abominations associated is required for me to attain paradise. But if I have to, it is good to know that well-defined Mormons will have my back. You will won't you. I'm not Mormon, but I believe in God. That counts...right?
 

Heyo

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Who are you to tell God what He needs?

If you think what we do doesn't matter, I oppose your line of thought. Acceptance of Christ means loving Him, obeying His commandments, following His example, taking upon us His name, remembering Him, emulating Him, listening to all He said, and trying to get what He was about among other things.
Woooosh
 

robocop (actually)

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This isn't really an answer. It's going to be Mormons vs. non-Mormons, yes? I want to make sure I'm understanding the scene.

It would be people in all locations and beliefs on either side, but the winning side would be small.

How true! So, you're training for the war, right? Training to use multiple weapons, prepping for nuclear winter, planning the military strategy, etc.?


It seems retarded now because it's just barely on the horizon, but there will have to be a physical fight.

Why would they try to destroy each other, if their common enemy is the Mormons? Wouldn't they try to destroy the Mormons?

Please try to understand the nature of the fight. The righteous, whoever they are, will be for righteousness which means they want to do everything upright and encourage others to. The wicked, whoever they are, will be for harming each other. They might want to take out a person on the good side if it helps them in that quest. They will be seriously destructive because they live off of harming each other.
 

Dan From Smithville

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The Latter-day Saints would be looking to encourage humanity to save itself. The people on the other team would not necessarily be unbelievers, but wicked. Wicked means that they attempt to harm each other. That would be their way of life, and if everyone follows it it leads to humanity-destruction.
Think of the good a sum of money as large as alleged could do. If war it must be, why not on poverty? Think of the job training program that could be set up with 100 billion dollars. With plenty left to right for food and housing for the needy. That seems like war truly worthy of the Lord.
 

robocop (actually)

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I don't think it matters as you seem to think it does. I certainly do not feel that going to war over ideology and embracing all the abominations associated is required for me to attain paradise. But if I have to, it is good to know that well-defined Mormons will have my back. You will won't you. I'm not Mormon, but I believe in God. That counts...right?
It will be a totally defensive war.
The wicked punish the wicked.
The righteous do not.
I will have your back. If you believe in God you are ultimately righteous but you may have further to go because of it.
 

robocop (actually)

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Think of the good a sum of money as large as alleged could do. If war it must be, why not on poverty? Think of the job training program that could be set up with 100 billion dollars. With plenty left to right for food and housing for the needy. That seems like war truly worthy of the Lord.
My Church has given $2 billion to humanitarian aid.
I donated $700 legally in 2019 and I'm on disability.
 

Nakosis

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An investigation published by the Washington Post Monday night focuses on a complaint filed by a whistle-blower⁠ who alleges the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints holds $100 billion in a charitable fund from member donations that hasn’t been spent in over 20 years⁠—but is instead reportedly intended for the “second coming of Christ.”

Mormon Church Reportedly Amassed $100 Billion Fund For ‘Second Coming Of Christ’

I suppose they assume Jesus is going to keep the Federal Reserve open. :eek:

God is not a socialist!:mad:
 

Dan From Smithville

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Please try to understand the nature of the fight. The righteous, whoever they are, will be for righteousness which means they want to do everything upright and encourage others to. The wicked, whoever they are, will be for harming each other. They might want to take out a person on the good side if it helps them in that quest. They will be seriously destructive because they live off of harming each other.
If it is a war, both sides will be fighting (harming), so how will it be determined which is which? The fog of war will be very confusing. Maybe some of that money can be used to develop a righteousness tricorder or something like that. I can help set up the R & D program. For a reasonable, but lucrative fee.

When uncertain phasers can be set on stun. Did I mention phasers? For just a little more money, we can develop those as righteous less than lethal technology.
 

robocop (actually)

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Also, for the record I know of no $100 billion fund for anything, but we are taught that our Church practices the principle of saving for a rainy day and encourages us too.
 
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