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Belief and Reality

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights

I would think anyone's belief has to align with their reality. The problem maybe it doesn't align with the majority's reality and then depending on their actions depends on the majority's reaction. The majority will then label them as diseased, psychosis, neurosis, confusion,...etc.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
New What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?

You missed one, religion? Although i suppose fantasy could cover it

Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights

If one's belief does not include our One God, then the source of all reality has not been found.

Regards Tony
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
We all have our own reality, that make it interesting, that plus what is actual reality and not yet known! :)

Regards Tony


Real can be weighed and observed and is (or can) be known

Imagination on the other hand is in the mind the the beholder. Although the electrical and chemical signals that form the imagination are real, the though formed is not
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Real can be weighed and observed and is (or can) be known

Imagination on the other hand is in the mind the the beholder. Although the electrical and chemical signals that form the imagination are real, the though formed is not

A good study on this subject is 'Psychological Frame of reference' and Inattentional Blindness.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
A better study is the laws of physics

I see Science is limited by our own mind, Wheras mind as a whole has unlimited potential.

A better study may be Religion and Science in harmony and not one against the other or in preference to the other.

Regards Tony
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I see Science is limited by our own mind, Wheras mind as a whole has unlimited potential.

A better study may be Religion and Science in harmony and not one against the other or in preference to the other.

Regards Tony

i see you have it back to front.

And evidence based study is far more rewarding than guesswork
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights
What do you mean by 'reality'? Isn't that a concept that's relative to the person's paradigm?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
i see you have it back to front.

And evidence based study is far more rewarding than guesswork

It is not guesswork to see Faith as an intrinsic part of our humanity.

I would see it as scientifically sound, not to dismiss our spirituality.

Regards Tony
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights
It's often called cognitive dissonance.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It is not guesswork to see Faith as an intrinsic part of our humanity.

I would see it as scientifically sound, not to dismiss our spirituality.

Regards Tony

Actually it is guesswork. In my view humanity strives to better itself.

If faith is recognised for what it is then there is no problem in that. The problems arise when people consider faith to be evidenced and hinder the progress of humanity simply to continue their personal belief
 

night912

Well-Known Member
What happens when a person's belief doesn't align with reality?


disease? psychosis? neurosis? confusion? innovation? fantasy?


is truth a bitter cup at times that some cannot assimilate? everyone wants it but not everyone will drink the dregs thereof?

in the twilight I have seen it. in the silence


the Father of all lights
You're forgetting comfort. Some will, at times, choose to remain comfortable over accepting the truth.
 

night912

Well-Known Member
I see Science is limited by our own mind, Wheras mind as a whole has unlimited potential.
I agree with you to an extent. But here is the tricky problem, our mind is also limited by our own mind. Faith is a limiting factor to our mind's potential. It prevents us from finding the truth and/or make us accept false things as being true.
 

night912

Well-Known Member
A better study may be Religion and Science in harmony and not one against the other or in preference to the other.

Regards Tony

I disagree. Throughout human history, there have been countless times that religion and science had bump heads with each other effecting one or the other or both.
 
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