"Survey: 8% of Public School Students Have Had a Teacher Lead the Class in Prayer"

[PruePhillip]

All the while being an illegal act.
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The Great Project of Western society is to turn every value and moral on its head.
Read my profile below.

 

[HonestJoe]

Yes, I would think it would a great learning experience for the students. About freedom too!

We're not talking about teaching, we're talking about enforced prayer. If a Muslim teacher in an American school made their class perform a Muslim prayer, kneeling on mats and echoing Arabic words, I have no doubt you'd be among the people crying out for him to be locked up (or worse).

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Ohhh...

the finer details. Different blood (that if mixed it would kill the baby), different DNA, different heartbeat, different brains waves, but its the same body.

I might as well as say Bob the Unbeliever is my body.

Nope. Forced-birthers (which is what you are advocating) is BODY SLAVERY.

You demand that person SUBMITS their body AGAINST THEIR WILL to be a parasitic host to an invading critter, who could easily kill the host, if things go wrong.

That is BODY SLAVERY. It is not even close to "the same body". In that? YOU ARE LYING.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

We're not talking about teaching, we're talking about enforced prayer. If a Muslim teacher in an American school made their class perform a Muslim prayer, kneeling on mats and echoing Arabic words, I have no doubt you'd be among the people crying out for him to be locked up (or worse).

I've no doubt he'd be in favor of a firing squad in the kickball court.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Ohhh...

the finer details. Different blood (that if mixed it would kill the baby), different DNA, different heartbeat, different brains waves, but its the same body.

I might as well as say Bob the Unbeliever is my body.

Nice! You 100% ignore the fact that forced-birth is SLAVERY and that your bible is fine with it, which is how you "justify" the act.

 

[Kenny]

White Christianity tends to be conservative, but not completely. Black Christianity tends to be more amenable to the poor and disaffected.

Conservatism is to help the poor and affected.

 

[Kenny]

That was back in the day when the majority were Christian. It's not the same and we can't pretend it is.

That is correct.

Life is a lot harder now than it was 60 years ago.

 

[Kenny]

Are you opposed to learning reading, writing and 'rithmetic, as well as history and science?

It would be WONDERFUL, if that was their priority.

American History is out the door. Science has been replaced by "I believe this is what I am". When I was a manager, people who knew arithmetic and how to give change was a hard one to find and reading level has decreased.

 

[Kenny]

We're not talking about teaching, we're talking about enforced prayer. If a Muslim teacher in an American school made their class perform a Muslim prayer, kneeling on mats and echoing Arabic words, I have no doubt you'd be among the people crying out for him to be locked up (or worse).

No one is forcing anyone, at least not by the teachers who are praying. You are creating a construct that doesn't exist.

Is it because you didn't like my answer?

 

[Kenny]

Nope. Forced-birthers (which is what you are advocating) is BODY SLAVERY.

Body slavery is called sex-slavery. Being responsible for ones actions is called maturity.

You demand that person SUBMITS their body AGAINST THEIR WILL to be a parasitic host to an invading critter, who could easily kill the host, if things go wrong.

Now you are calling babies parasite. Need I say more?

That is BODY SLAVERY. It is not even close to "the same body". In that? YOU ARE LYING.

Now you want me to deny science?

 

[Kenny]

Nice! You 100% ignore the fact that forced-birth is SLAVERY and that your bible is fine with it, which is how you "justify" the act.

Your modern definition is not what God is advocating.

In today's world, it would be credit cards. Keeping people in financial slavery for personal profits at extortion rates.

 

[HonestJoe]

No one is forcing anyone, at least not by the teachers who are praying. You are creating a construct that doesn't exist.

A teacher leading the class in prayer certainly suggests it isn't optional. Even if a student isn't required to join in, they can't leave. That is precisely why this kind of thing is specifically against the law.

 

[Skwim]

The Great Project of Western society is to turn every value and moral on its head.
Read my profile below.

Hmmm, first I've heard of the Great Project of Western society. Interesting.

2001-2015 Gallop figures on approval rates for moral issues in USA:

Gay lesbian 40 to 63%.
Baby outside marriage 45 to 61%.
Casual sex 53 to 68%.
Divorce 59 to 71%.
Polygamy 7 to 16%.
Doctor suicide 49 to 56%.
Personal suicide13 to 19%.
Gambling 63 to 67%.
Abortion 42 to 45%.
Married men having affairs 7 to 8%.

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[Kenny]

A teacher leading the class in prayer certainly suggests it isn't optional. Even if a student isn't required to join in, they can't leave. That is precisely why this kind of thing is specifically against the law.

First, "forced" and "leading" are two different words - thank you for adjusting.

So, which is worse. A 1 minute prayer or complete teaching of LGBT?

New Law Being Used to Spread LGBT Gender Identity Ideology into CA Public Schools

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nice! You 100% ignore the fact that forced-birth is SLAVERY and that your bible is fine with it, which is how you "justify" the act.

Actually the Bible appears to be more pro-abortion than anti-abortion. The anti-abortion nuts simply cherry pick the weak verses that seem to support their beliefs while they ignore the ones that strongly refute them.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Body slavery is called sex-slavery. Being responsible for ones actions is called maturity..

Being forced to donate your organ for another person? Is also body slavery.

Ooops! You got things wrong AGAIN.

Now you are calling babies parasite. Need I say more?
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IF IT IS UNWANTED? It fits the very DEFINITION of parasite.

YOU WOULD FORCE A WOMAN TO DONATE HER ORGANS-- EVEN TO HER DEATH-- FOR THIS INVASIVE ORGANISM THAT HAS NO BRAIN....

Now you want me to deny science?

Alas... you have no clue what "science" actually is... You think a mindless blob of about 6 dozen cells is .... a "baby" or some such sh---.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Actually the Bible appears to be more pro-abortion than anti-abortion. The anti-abortion nuts simply cherry pick the weak verses that seem to support their beliefs while they ignore the ones that strongly refute them.

Of course! None of the pro-Forced-Birthers actually bother reading their own bible...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Your modern definition is not what God is advocating..

Look up Hubris: you are showing it in spades. You claim to speak for god, now? Wow...!!!

Exodus 21 is QUITE CLEAR about what constitutes "Slavery". And it fits exactly what I'm saying, here.... exactly.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

No one is forcing anyone, at least not by the teachers who are praying. You are creating a construct that doesn't exist.

Is it because you didn't like my answer?

You are not telling the truth-- if a kid was able to LEAVE during the unwanted PRAYERS?

You MIGHT have a case for it not being FORCED....

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

That is correct.

Life is a lot harder now than it was 60 years ago.

Oh. My. In what delusional dimension do YOU live in, now?

You think it's "harder" because you are LOSING THE PRIVILEGE TO ABUSE NON-CHRISTIANS?

That must be difficult for you...