Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

[We Never Know]

OK, so what is the problem? Yes, biologists accept that 3 billion years ago there were only bacteria, the eucaryotic cells developed about 2 billion years ago, that multicellular life developed about 800 million years ago, etc.

Now, does every biologist remember all of this? Certainly not. But neither does every physicist remember ever formula in specialties not their own. That doesn't change the acceptance of them.

So what, exactly, is your question? is there doubt that we have bacteria->eucaryotes->multicellular->vertebrates->jawed fish->amphibians->reptiles->mammals->humans?

Nope. That basic outline is solid. As always, details take more time to fill in, but many of those details have, in fact, been filled in.

"That basic outline is solid. As always, details take more time to fill in, but many of those details have, in fact, been filled in" that is what I was asking to a certain point and I agree.

Next; do clergy and religious people accept it as solid? Or do they partially accept it and partially reject it because they believe a god was involved?

I may have over stepped into your reply when you said everyone. I took it as it also included religious people in your everyone.

 

[Polymath257]

"That basic outline is solid. As always, details take more time to fill in, but many of those details have, in fact, been filled in" that is what I was asking to a certain point and I agree.

Next; do clergy and religious people accept it as solid? Or do they partially accept it and partially reject it because they believe a god was involved?

I may have over stepped into your reply when you said everyone. I took it as it also included religious people in your everyone.

No, I was limiting it to professional biologists. You know, those qualified to say one way or the other.

 

[We Never Know]

No, I was limiting it to professional biologists. You know, those qualified to say one way or the other.

Understood. As I stated I may have over stepped on the meaning of everyone.

 

[LightofTruth]

Back to this old canard, eh?

Most people realize that evolution can not be demonstrated. whereas the truths of Scripture are always demonstrated.

 

[Jose Fly]

Most people realize that evolution can not be demonstrated.

Um.....we see populations evolve every day, right before our eyes. We've watched them evolve new traits, genetic sequences, and even species. In fact, populations evolving is so common we both fight against it (bacterial resistance to antibiotics) and exploit it (domestication).

You may as well be telling us that it never rains.

 

[Polymath257]

Most people realize that evolution can not be demonstrated. whereas the truths of Scripture are always demonstrated.

You got that precisely backwards. I can provide evidence that species have changed over time.

Can you provide evidence for Noah's flood? Or the existence of Adam and Eve?

 

[We Never Know]

Since @Polymath257 has already responded, there's one part of your post I'm curious about. You seem to be questioning the notion that "biological species change over time is solid". If so, on what basis? I mean, you do realize that species changing over time, even to the point of producing new species, is a repeatedly observed and documented fact, right? Or is your objection about the level of support, in that as long as there is some segment of the population that denies or doubts something, it can't be referred to as "solid"? If so, I refer you to the existence of flat-earth geocentrists.

Are we clear now or do you need further follow up?

 

[We Never Know]

Indeed. Nearly all legitimate scientists and educated layfolk do.

Creationists probably should, and the more educated ones do to an extent, but they place Scripture-based (i.e., arbitrary) constraints on how far this can go.
I say they should accept this since not doing so causes lots of problems for their ark story, at least if they want to argue that it is reality-based.

That was what I was hinting at. Believers that accept evolution accept it in a different way. However I mistook Poly's everyone as including religious people as well. My mistake.

 

[Jose Fly]

Are we clear now

Not totally.

or do you need further follow up?

From what I can tell, you're asking questions about how "solid" "species change over time" is with the general public, and/or religious people, and/or clergy. If that's the case, there are numerous public opinion polls that address those questions, some of which were referenced in THIS THREAD that was started just last Friday.

 

[We Never Know]

Not totally.


From what I can tell, you're asking questions about how "solid" "species change over time" is with the general public, and/or religious people, and/or clergy. If that's the case, there are numerous public opinion polls that address those questions, some of which were referenced in THIS THREAD that was started just last Friday.

Good grief. Read the posts. I was asking how solid it is accepted by everyone which I mistook Poly's everyone to include religious people.
Many religious people accept evolution with a god envolded which it totally different than accepting the Toe itself as I stated. Try reading "all" the posts and keep up. No harm intended.

 

[Jose Fly]

Good grief. Read the posts. I was asking how solid it is accepted by everyone which I mistook Poly's everyone to include religious people.

Not sure why you had to ask, since as I noted, a thread was started less than a week ago that addressed that very question.

Many religious people accept evolution with a god envolded

Which was a specific category in one of the polls in that thread.

Try reading "all" the posts and keep up. No harm intended.

Suggestion noted.

 

[We Never Know]

Not sure why you had to ask, since as I noted, a thread was started less than a week ago that addressed that very question.


Which was a specific category in one of the polls in that thread.


Suggestion noted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you show how evolution can make an eye?

Yes, in fact here is a video on it for you that does a better job than I could do. You might recognize the young man making the presentation:

 

[Subduction Zone]

Intelligent people realize how little they really know.

Oh my! There goes another irony meter!

 

[tas8831]

Most people realize that evolution can not be demonstrated. whereas the truths of Scripture are always demonstrated.

Examples?

 

[tas8831]

Intelligent people realize how little they really know.

So where does that leave you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Most people realize that evolution can not be demonstrated. whereas the truths of Scripture are always demonstrated.

You appear to have your claims backwards again.

Are you trying to say that if you nail someone to a tree they will be observed to come back three days later?


You are limiting your ability to observe. Evolution can be demonstrated in several independent ways.

 

[Subduction Zone]

These well-researched, evidence-based, rational, objective responses to my questions have also been useful for my purposes.

When almost everyone is pointing out serious flaws in ones behavior the problem is usually not other people.

 

[tas8831]

Ask ridiculously nonsensical questions, don't complain about the quality of the answers.

I'm a bit late to the game, but in reading several of his exchanges, it seems like he is hunting for a 'gotcha'.

 

[Polymath257]

Oh my! There goes another irony meter!

You know that bringing an irony meter into a forum like this voids the warranty!