Another shooting fueled by an extreme right wing white supremacist

[Revoltingest]

That does put a kink in the armor of the debate.

It's OK to use the word "chink".
It's not racist in this context.
Or is it?
@Audie?

 

[SkepticThinker]

What constitutes a White Supremacist book in your mind?

A book about how the white "race" is superior to others. One that argues against racial equality. One that promotes social darwinism. To name a few.

Should I take that as a no? Or a yes?

 

[Stanyon]

No and the use of weapon was besides the point.

More the point is how some media outlets rushed to call it an "assault weapon" then retracted and started calling it "assault style" when it was pointed out it was long considered a war relic. Also the claim of White Nationalist seems to revolve around his quoting some Ragnar Redbeard, much like the Black Metal guy who burned a church an it was claimed he was a White Nationalist because he responded to someone online who thought a belt looked like a Swastika. The reporting of this from some appeals more to emotions than facts and it seems some have a political agenda.

The weapon used does not matter, it was a tragedy committed by a criminal that wanted to harm people, what does matter is how it is being portrayed by some media outlets and the perceptions they wish to create for selfish social/political purposes.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

More the point is how some media outlets rushed to call it an "assault weapon" then retracted and started calling it "assault style" when it was pointed out it was long considered a war relic.

What does that have to do with the fact that he mentioned mixed people and that he quoted a know white supremacist? You're deflecting from the issue. Typical of fake liberals.

 

[Stanyon]

What does that have to do with the fact that he mentioned mixed people and that he quoted a know white supremacist? You're deflecting from the issue. Typical of fake liberals.

As I said before, if I quoted from the book Moby Dick would it make me a whaler?

 

[Stanyon]

What does that have to do with the fact that he mentioned mixed people and that he quoted a know white supremacist? You're deflecting from the issue. Typical of fake liberals.

Two women were recently shot at an anti- violence vigil in Chicago, White Supremacists?

 

[pearl]

Obama's ethnicity and the ignored anger and hatred in a specific population in this country spearheaded the hatred we see.

I tend to agree with this. A black man in the white house could not be comprehended nor tolerated. And the Russian hacking pinpointed exactly how and where to reach this specific population. Trump was not the initial cause, he exploited it to his advantage.

 

[pearl]

The weapon used does not matter

If and when the weapon is clearly identified, its the weapon of cowards!

 

[shmogie]

I see a lot of people trying to push this "good guys with guns save the day" narrative but I don't see it working out in reality.
Let's say a bunch of other people at the festival were carrying guns and decided to whip them out and start trying to take down the shooter and save the day. That's what everybody is talking about right, "good guys with guns" taking out the bad guys with guns? So now you've got several people all shooting guns at a crowded festival full of people. How does that not increase the likelihood of more carnage and death occurring when you've now got even more bullets flying everywhere? Maybe the good guy with a gun could have taken out the bad guy with a gun, or distracted him, or whatever, but odds are, the good guy would have injured some other good guys at the crowded festival.

I do agree that the US definitely has a societal problem at the root of this. You're the only country in the free world that has these mass shootings on a regular basis.

The facts are that people able to defend themselves with firearms do on a regular basis. Every month the American Rifleman magazine records these incidents. My own daughter, trained by me, came home from her work late at night. she lives in a gated community, but the miscreant jumped the wall to get in. As he was coming toward her to attack her, she took her pistol out of her purse and told him if he continued, he was a dead man. He reversed course and ran to the wall and jumped over it. She is barely five feet tall and weighs a hundred pounds, without the gun she would have been robbed, raped, and maybe killed..

AS to the festival, bullets would not be flying everywhere, only where aimed.

I don understand the logic that says a defender might wound an innocent, so there should be no armed defenders, so the shooter can keep killing at will., Eliminate a risk, and accept a certainty. No, not logical.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's odd how the media handle descriptions of guns.
I kept hearing it was an "AK47 style SKS".
They're very different.
An SK is not an assault rifle at all.
But things must be made more sensational.

I'm guessing they feel they can reference the AK since they both fire 7.62x39mm?

 

[Father Heathen]

I would like to know how he got an AK-47. I was under the impression that fully automatic guns are banned except if you have a Federal Firearms License, which costs thousands of dollars and needs a ton of paperwork. It's mostly members of the military that have them, as far as I know. So how did a 19 year old get an AK?

it wasn't an AK, even though civilians can get AKs, albeit only semi-automatic varieties. It was an SKS, an older Russian rifle that fires the same rounds, I believe.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm guessing they feel they can reference the AK since they both fire 7.62x39mm?

Yes, I'm sure that news types analyzed it that way.
I wonder why they didn't call it a Ruger Mini 30 or other rifle chambered for it?

 

[metis]

I suspect no conservatives will be on board in channeling criticism against the divisive rhetoric of this so-called leader,

Actually a real conservative, economic or political, wouldn't be supporting Trump based on his actions.

 

[metis]

BTW, are we next to read how all these roughly 300,000,000 guns in circulation in the U.S. are making us safer?

 

[Stanyon]

I tend to agree with this. A black man in the white house could not be comprehended nor tolerated.

Obama won the presidency twice, the maximum amount of terms he could serve so obviously someone voted for him.

 

[SugarOcean]

These are the facts Liar Media edits out. And anti-Trumpeters ignore.

 

[Revoltingest]

Obama won the presidency twice, the maximum amount of terms he could serve so obviously someone voted for him.

But because he identifies as black, it's necessary to view him as a victim of racism.
I only disagreed with him on some policies because I'm racist....so I was told here.

 

[etong]

What a joke!, right-wing extremists don't exist, this is just a sorry person, Islamic terrorism has killed more than ANY conservatives, liberals are VIOLENT, they hate everyone that disagrees with you, they call FOR DEATH THREATS for students on Covington Catholic, what BS, Left-wingers has lead people to SUICIDE, they have ruined so many people's lives, they are a CULT

 

[SugarOcean]

I tend to agree with this. A black man in the white house could not be comprehended nor tolerated.

That's why a black man was elected twice to serve as President.
No, black has nothing to do with it. What can't be tolerated is a traitor who , along with his deplorable wife, hated America and who also just happened to be black.

And the Russian hacking pinpointed exactly how and where to reach this specific population. Trump was not the initial cause, he exploited it to his advantage.

Of course that last part is crap. The collusion with Russia occurred under Obama and Hillary.

 

[SugarOcean]

But because he identifies as black, it's necessary to view him as a victim of racism.

Blacks aren't the only one's that play the victim card. The tragic part is when they throw that card they don't realize they're insulting their lineage and the history of blacks in America.

I only disagreed with him on some policies because I'm racist....so I was told here.

Those who told you that were racists that were race baiting.
They were also blind to the fact that Obama, had he been any race and behaved as he did for eight years in office, was a racist and a traitor. That he left office out of handcuffs, walking beside Hillary in her own set of bracelets, was a tragedy that will impact America for generations to come.